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[737823]

To me it's mind boggling that self proclaimed "trade unionists" and "labor activists" condone bumping junior employees from an unaffected station when there is a RIF. Yes I understand that's the language many CBAs have and you guys feel tenure, not merit or performance should be the driving force in the workplace. I just don't see how the labor movement feels it is fair to displace a more junior person-who makes less on the sacks to be displaced from a non-impacted location to accommodate a senior employee who loses their job at an other location. It would seem the senior employee he elal is more able to weather a time of unemployment given higher wages, savings, etc but may have more difficultly securing other employment due to their age. Would you guys please enlighten me on this one?

Josh

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

It is a deterrent. Companies think long and hard about making staffing cuts at locations when there will be repercussions across the system.

At NWA, they would staff locations minimally and pay overtime when needed to cover for increased operational workload. Other airlines that did not have the bumping provision would hire and layoff every cycle.

 

[WorldTraveler]

yet, DL has reduced staffing less than other companies. Companies pay unemployment insurance. THAT is a deterrent along with the ill will that pushing employees around creates.

Again, how many mechanics has DL moved since the merger - we're going on 6 years so the track record should be pretty apparent.

And what are the reasons for the reductions? Might it be because DL is reducing the number of older aircraft?

 

[Kev3188]

Then DL will create a job, not needed, doing nothing and adding no value to the bottom line, in order to pacify that person!

What?
 
 

It is a deterrent. Companies think long and hard about making staffing cuts at locations when there will be repercussions across the system.

+1
 
 

And what are the reasons for the reductions? Might it be because DL is reducing the number of older aircraft?

Is this a rhetorical question? I would've assumed you had already made a bee-line for the employee website...

The reason cited is a significant drop in RON/RAD aircraft at DTW. That's on the front page on the employee site, and links to a letter to the affected employees. Maybe it has to do with A/C age, but my guess is route profitability. maybe focusing more on afternoon/PM flights to Europe, Asia, etc.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Well the number of overnighters does reduce the number of aircraft at the hub and increase the number of aircraft at spoke stations.

I will bet that DL will find no shortage of mecanics clamoring to move to MCI MSY and BNA

 

[700UW]

The real situation is that the bottom 40 are still going to have their lives disrupted and they wont have the seniority to hold those three cities even if they wanted too.

 

[Kev3188]

Further reading for those with access to DLNet: there's a memo to ACS employees on the DTW hub page discussing a shift in emphasis to PM flights & why. Not trying to be coy, but unsure of where the proprietary line is.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Delta does not layoff non-union employees do they? Don't they just give them whatever limited option they choose to offer at the time, or you can resign or be terminated?

 

[Thomas Paine]

Level? What the hell kind of term is that?
Upset, tip over, scrape off, trim, how about what it really is...layoff.

"Level" is the new word for "Cull"

 

[Thomas Paine]

I bet DL does know what NW's best mechanics did and even figured out how to do it before the merger, Glen.There is a reason why DL has had the lowest maintenance expenses per ASM of any other airline (LFCs included) and still has one of the highest percentages of work done in-house.

Could it be that they have kids from school with no licenses and no experience working for free and they make their Licensed mechanics who have no Union protection or ASAP program signing off their work? Oh thats right, you dont know, have to ask a mechanic, but somehow you know the reason why they have the lowest maintenance costs per ASM.

 

[Thomas Paine]

good for US. If a position is open then DL employees can do the same.The issue is when the position is filled.DL NORMALLY doesn't do it but has in the past. Those affected in this scenario will know. We don't even know that DL is going to level DTW MTC since they have told employees a station is over as an incentive to get people to voluntarily bid out or take voluntary packages - without implementing a leveling process.

in other words because they have no contract Delta does whatever the hell it feels like doing with those people. Most Union people can bump wherever their seniority takes them and get an allowance to cover moving expenses.

 

[700UW]

Because they farmout all their heavy checks and interior mods, they ferry planes to SIN for interior mods.
 
And use DGS mechanics in ATL at their TOC.
 
(Edited personal info), what does he know about maintenance and inflight, except his use of statistics and we all know figures dont lie but figurers do.
 
DL's average fleet age is 16.9 years.
 
http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Delta%20Airlines.htm

 

[southwind]

"Level" is the new word for "Cull"

Guess these "DUES-PAYING UNION MEMBERS" were "Culled" also!
 
"United Airlines to lay off 688 flight attendants"

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2014/01/16/United-Airlines-to-lay-off-688-flight-attendants/UPI-53131389901135/#ixzz2qtC0zQuA
 
 

"American Airlines could lay off 400 more workers at Okla. facility in early 2014!"
http://newsok.com/american-airlines-could-lay-off-400-more-workers-at-okla.-facility-in-early-2014/article/3884260
 
Maybe these peeps were behind on their dues!

 

[700UW]

Your parents must be so proud of you.
 
 

Delta cuts 126 jobs, 36 flights from Memphis
The airline will drop 126 positions from customer service and cargo jobs. Those cuts come in addition to the 230 job cuts announced in June.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/local/2013/10/22/delta-cuts-126-jobs-36-flights-from-memphis/3167391/
Delta making cuts at hubs outside Atlanta
http://www.ajc.com/news/business/delta-making-cuts-at-hubs-outside-atlanta/nRMSb/
 
And what about the 40 mechanics and 14 stock clerks DL is cutting in DTW now?
 
By the way do  you know the difference between Could and Can?
 
You make this way too easy.

 

[southwind]

Your parents must be so proud of you.
 
 
http://www.wbir.com/story/news/local/2013/10/22/delta-cuts-126-jobs-36-flights-from-memphis/3167391/
Delta making cuts at hubs outside Atlanta
http://www.ajc.com/news/business/delta-making-cuts-at-hubs-outside-atlanta/nRMSb/
 
And what about the 40 mechanics and 14 stock clerks DL is cutting in DTW now?
 
By the way do  you know the difference between Could and Can?
 
You make this way too easy.

The difference between could and can makes no difference to a laid off non-union employee or laid off "UNION" employee!
 
Just admit it.............having a union does "NOT" protect you from company downsizing...........hell, it's going on at American as we speak!