New A/C Reg. numbers

[markkus757]

The US designators that some NW jets have were actually supposed to be the first Airbuses in US' fleet. The deliveries were deferred due to contract negotiations and payscale differences in the early 90s. BMI and NW were given the first 50 or so A320s that were supposed to come to you guys. I was told by an unreliable source in regards to the tail numbers for several airlines, the letters represent the bank that backs the lease on the aircraft. NW has a lot of 319's that end in NB. Nation's Bank was rumored to be the backer of the aircraft. I also had heard the the UW a/c were backed by Wachovia.

 

[700UW]

Wrong,

NW owned the rights to US as their designator, US and the military and NW did a three way exchange.

Some of US' first A320 were originally for Phillipine Airlines.

US orders and recieved its own A319s and it had nothing to do with NW.

US never ordered Airbus till 1997 and recieved the first ones in 1998.

UW was a designator used as US with the specific tail #s were all ready used.

And NW has US on a bunch of 747s also.

For Example US also uses AU the elemental symbol for gold, and VJ for VistaJet which was the name for the DC-9, even one 757 has the VJ designator, 625VJ.

 

[markkus757]

So what you're saying, US didn't have any trouble getting replacement narrowbodies from Boeing, they didn't have trouble negotiating payscales for the small Airbuses and BMI did not get ANY of your deferred aircraft? I already know that NW has 747s with the US in their tail numbers. That was over a decade before. US ordered the A320 and A319 in 1996 with 400 total, 120 firm. According to this list of active aircraft, US didn't start getting any until 1999......

Airbus A320 active with US Airways


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1 2 MSN Type Delivery date Registration Remark
54 320-231 02/02/2006 N622AW
81 320-231 02/02/2006 N632AW
317 320-231 16/04/2006 N644AW
527 320-232 15/04/2006 N619AW
543 320-212 25/02/2006 N605AW
770 320-232 27/02/2006 N648AW
844 320-214 19/05/1999 N102UW
861 320-214 07/06/1999 N103US
863 320-214 29/06/1999 N104UW
866 320-232 22/04/2006 N6541AW
953 320-232 19/02/2006 N652AW
1044 320-214 02/08/1999 N106US
1050 320-232 22/01/2006 N654AW
1052 320-214 16/08/1999 N107US
1061 320-214 03/09/1999 N108UW
1065 320-214 09/09/1999 N109UW
1110 320-232 26/02/2006 N658AW
1112 320-214 22/11/1999 N110UW
1114 320-214 29/11/1999 N111US
1134 320-214 22/12/1999 N112US
1141 320-214 18/01/2000 N113UW
1148 320-214 24/01/2000 N114UW
1166 320-232 28/01/2006 N659AW
1224 320-214 30/05/2000 N117UW
1264 320-214 08/09/2000 N118US
1268 320-214 27/07/2000 N119US
1274 320-232 22/01/2006 N662AW
1294 320-214 07/09/2000 N121UW
1298 320-214 21/09/2000 N122US
1310 320-214 25/10/2000 N123UW
1314 320-214 02/11/2000 N124US
1419 320-232 28/01/2006 N663AW
1621 320-232 15/01/2006 N664AW
1644 320-232 11/02/2006 N665AW
1710 320-232 19/02/2006 N667AW

Do you have any of the dates for any that aren't with US right now?

 

[700UW]

US did not defer airbus aircraft until the first bankrupcty, US filed in 2002 the first time,not the early 1990s.

And Wolf cancelled the 737 order from Boeing when he bought the Airbus, paying Boeing millions in fines.

They were never built as they were not to be delivered until the mid 2000s.

No airline got our planes as the deferred aircraft were never built.

The airbus payscales fell under the same groups as similar boeing a/c as pay scales are not by plane but by group.

And no there were no problems in negotiating rates, the order was contingent on the pilots accepting pay parity plus 1% under Wolf, which they did.

A/C 700UW was the first airbus US recieved.

The AW registrations are not US East planes they are west.

A/C 700UW was delivered 1998, I as a trainer on the plane.

It was built in 1998 and certificated on 12/16/98 and its airworthy date was 11/23/1998 and it was delivered to US on 10/15/1998.

US Airways A319 history

A/C 101UW was the first A320 US recieved and it was delivered to US on 1/29/1999.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

NW's use of "US" in registation numbers comes up every once in while. I'm too lazy to look up those threads, but suffice it to say that NW's "US" numbers predate the "US Airways" name by a couple of decades. They stopped using it for new registrations some time back.