Negotiations........why?

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

 
To no benefit of the members.

Good we agree on that.
 

 

Not defending the twu but actually the company does that.

I believe they had help. That help came in the form of under the table deals from UNION leaders.
 
You are entitled to your own opinion of course.
 

 

Control? How do you figure that? Most of the people I work with are all company no matter how they are treated. Kinda like battered wives.

We will have to disagree on this specific issue.

 

[Zom JFK]

 
I believe they had help. That help came in the form of under the table deals from UNION leaders.
 
You are entitled to your own opinion of course.

Under the table deals? All these concessions were voted in by the MEMBERS. That's no opinion it's a fact.
 
We will have to disagree on this specific issue.

I'm no fan of the twu but the membership has to take some responsibility for the shape were in. They buy into the BS every time.

 

[southwind]

What is the normal length of a IAM contract?
 
I believe the TWU prefers a six year deal....

Another question is , how hard is it to get rid of a union once they're in and not delivering, as promised?

 

[Kev3188]

You'll scoff, but the answer is "only as hard as the membership makes it."
 
If a group wants to change unions bad enough, all they have to do is collect enough cards to request a vote, and cast their ballots accordingly.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

 
Under the table deals? All these concessions were voted in by the MEMBERS. That's no opinion it's a fact.

The TA was distributed to the membership by the TWU, then the TWU started a fear campaign to get it passed.
 

 
I'm no fan of the twu but the membership has to take some responsibility for the shape were in. They buy into the BS every time.

I can't disagree with that.

 

[DallasConehead]

Another question is , how hard is it to get rid of a union once they're in and not delivering, as promised?

In this situation it is impossible,
 
since the AA mechanics are held hostage by the TWU, which includes the tittle 2 that get A&P mechanic pay minus license, thus they will never go with a different representative. There is also the die hard TWU A&P mechanic supporters in TULE, that are blind to the screwing all of us have gotten, I don't know why.  You have the NMB which seems to be "on the take" from whom ever will pay them. ie company and union and the AFL CIO which does nothing to improve our lot in life, all they do is take our money and live exorbitant lifestyles.
 
The best thing to do is accept the screwing and enjoy it until the end.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

In this situation it is impossible,
 
since the AA mechanics are held hostage by the TWU, which includes the tittle 2 that get A&P mechanic pay minus license, thus they will never go with a different representative. There is also the die hard TWU A&P mechanic supporters in TULE, that are blind to the screwing all of us have gotten, I don't know why.  You have the NMB which seems to be "on the take" from whom ever will pay them. ie company and union and the AFL CIO which does nothing to improve our lot in life, all they do is take our money and live exorbitant lifestyles.
 
The best thing to do is accept the screwing and enjoy it until the end.

TWU UNION dues are nothing short of funding a political machine.
 
Maybe one day people will wake up and realize that. 

 

[dfw gen]

Ok so day one of the association planning session. Are we going to get updates or are we going to be treated like one big mushroom population.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Ok so day one of the association planning session. Are we going to get updates or are we going to be treated like one big mushroom population.

lol, I think we all know the answer to that.

 

[dfw gen]

lol, I think we all know the answer to that.

No really I beleive! I saw overspun clicking his ruby slippers together!

 

[700UW]

They are still in session.

 

[dfw gen]

They are still in session.

Should have been in session six months ago in anticipation of the fix being in.

 

[dfw gen]

They are still in session.

They should have been in session six months ago in anticipation of the fix being in. Inexcusable, irresponsible, bordering on failure to represent.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

They are just getting the company "tell". There is no "ask" from the TWU or IAM.

 

[1AA]

They should be asking for the 4%. A good faith jester since the unions and company were successful in keeping the three way marriage going.