Negotiations........why?

[Bob Owens]

 
No union can use any part of our dues for political purpose.
 

That's not true. They cant make donations but they most certainly can (and should) spend money on politics, check the LM2.

 

[AANOTOK]

Bob, exactly how much have the wages rose since that debacle in 2003, and how long have they been on the rise.
Oh, and please, please never run for office. I would be horrified if you were ever on a negotiating committee...

 

[700UW]

They can spend it as soft money.
 
Political Education on issues and Get Out to Vote drives.
 
No money can be used to be given to a party, nor a candidate.

You know this Bob, you are the ST/FS.
 
That is why the IAM has the MNPL and the TWU has COPE, they are voluntary donations by the members to a Political Action Committee.

 

[Rogallo]

Bob, exactly how much have the wages rose since that debacle in 2003, and how long have they been on the rise.
Oh, and please, please never run for office. I would be horrified if you were ever on a negotiating committee...

 
Do you squat to pee?
 
Just asking!

 

[CMH_GSE]

Before 700 starts posting his cut-n-paste junk about this post I will try to intervene,
No union can use any part of our dues for political purpose.
Wages have been on the rise.
 
and I think thats as far as i'll go

Disagree to some of this.
I'm making less today than I was in 2003, before the give backs, when you factor in the loss of Pension, medical costs, vacation lost, sick time lost, holidays and holiday pay lost, double time lost.
Not a complete list, but that hits the highlights.
The give backs were lengthy.
The get backs have been virtually non existent to date.
Add in, the company now wants to implement a new CS policy outside of the JCBA , but wants nothing to do with giving us the 4% everybody else got until there is a JCBA.

Also, on the politics issue.
The union uses massive amounts of money's, manpower, time and energies into garnering political influence and telling its membership who to support each election cycle, because , you know, they know what's better for us than we do.

Can someone, Anyone, point to some things all that political ass kissing has gotten the membership through all these years of give backs?
Ironic, the biggest losses have been maintained and remain in place all during one of the greatest runs of liberalism in DC in our lifetime.

Again, I'm still making less than my pre give back 2003 compensation.
also, even with all the give backs, still lost my job and had to move to keep one.
Very likely to lose my job again with coming JCBA and "revised scope".

So go ahead, tell me what I gained since the give backs of 2003...

 

[AANOTOK]

 
Do you squat to pee?
 
Just asking!

Maybe, what's it to you?
 
Just asking!

 

[700UW]

Maybe, what's it to you?
 
Just asking!

Maybe he had to leave a dump too.

 

[AANOTOK]

Was afraid he was a stall snooper...

 

[700UW]

Maybe he wants to be like Larry Craig.

 

[AANOTOK]

...and by the way inquisitive one (Rogallo), I was referring to bob@las, not your leader Bob Owens!

 

[Rogallo]

...and by the way inquisitive one (Rogallo), I was referring to bob@las, not your leader Bob Owens!

 
Sorry, my bad. I apoligize. I did think that.
 
Maybe some still have balls in this union!

 

[bob@las-AA]

 
 
Beat you to the punch already, lol, a little slow this morning Bob?

🙂

 

[bob@las-AA]

That's not true. They cant make donations but they most certainly can (and should) spend money on politics, check the LM2.

What you are referring to is COPE.

 

[700UW]

Not necessarily, unions have to report every single penny spent, and its broken down by category, unions can use dues money as soft money as Voter Education and GOTV, not used to give to parties or candidates.

 

[1AA]

Not necessarily, unions have to report every single penny spent, and its broken down by category, unions can use dues money as soft money as Voter Education and GOTV, not used to give to parties or candidates.

How do unions report income such as company bribes to get contracts passed?