More Work

Wretched Wrench said:
What work is done there?

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Doesn't look like anything more than a PS or maybe an A check -- longest ground on any aircraft I've seen in the past month is 12 hours.
 
Former ModerAAtor said:
Doesn't look like anything more than a PS or maybe an A check -- longest ground on any aircraft I've seen in the past month is 12 hours.
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This is a typical management statement (Doesn't look like anything more than a PS or maybe an A check). Oh I forgot you are. The bottom line is. This is our work and the company is intentionally doing this with the twu's assistance(lack of language). These checks are being scheduled by having no checks the night before and then they happen to run out of time when they are over the pond,not to mention all of the other write ups that are being deferred until they get over there.
 
This is a typical management statement (Doesn't look like anything more than a PS or maybe an A check). Oh I forgot you are. The bottom line is. This is our work and the company is intentionally doing this with the twu's assistance(lack of language).

The plane sits on the ground for 12 hours, it would be stupid not to do all the work at that time. Its not "Your work" AA is in the business of making money, not supplying you with a job. You union people are so hypocritical, you demand a "business plan that works", but then also demand the company do things that drive up its costs. Its the same problem throughout the company, union and management, everyone bangs the "cost savings" drumb, but no one is willing to accept cost cuts in their on area.
 
Oneflyer said:
The plane sits on the ground for 12 hours, it would be stupid not to do all the work at that time. Its not "Your work" AA is in the business of making money, not supplying you with a job. You union people are so hypocritical, you demand a "business plan that works", but then also demand the company do things that drive up its costs. Its the same problem throughout the company, union and management, everyone bangs the "cost savings" drumb, but no one is willing to accept cost cuts in their on area.
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AA could outsource every mechanic job if they desire but every action has concequences.
AA management had better be careful because good deals are not always good deals.Who is overseeing the "A" checks?
 
Fear not!

AA sends an instructor to these places for a couple of days' worth of training, and "THAT"S THAT!"
 
Oneflyer said:
The plane sits on the ground for 12 hours, it would be stupid not to do all the work at that time. Its not "Your work" AA is in the business of making money, not supplying you with a job. You union people are so hypocritical, you demand a "business plan that works", but then also demand the company do things that drive up its costs. Its the same problem throughout the company, union and management, everyone bangs the "cost savings" drumb, but no one is willing to accept cost cuts in their on area.
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dude, AA hoodwinked the citizens of Tulsa out $22 Million "Vision 2025" to "Save jobs" that are clearly costing more than the 22 mill in medical bills and lack of productivity due to over manning. You're dang fool to blame union members, when we were all just along for the ride on the concessions for jobs train. And our labor agreement was signed "without further ratification" by the membership.


AA allowed the "union" to decide how to come up with the needed savings to avoid BK. And so, we gave up concessions to instead of lay-offs to "save jobs".

AA is cuurently in the business of "saving jobs" instead of making money and this is why the LOSSES will continue thru 2005 and then BK will finally strike.

Look at the FACTS instead of the DREAM it is the "union" running the airline, not the management. And therefore "saving jobs" is the agenda.
 
I was told by maintinance workers in Sao Paulo they do everything.
A lot of it too.

Actually the company just sent some mechanics down to train mechanics in Sao Paulo.

Sometimes you will see more than 777 & 767 down there too being worked on.

Keep your eyes open.
 
AA is in the business of "saving jobs" instead of making money and this is why the LOSSES will continue thru 2005 and then BK will finally strike.

Can't say I disagree with you here.
 
Oneflyer said:
Its not "Your work" AA is in the business of making money, not supplying you with a job.

And then...

Can't say I disagree with you here.
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???

Well which is it?
 
Oneflyer said:
The plane sits on the ground for 12 hours, it would be stupid not to do all the work at that time. Its not "Your work" AA is in the business of making money, not supplying you with a job. You union people are so hypocritical, you demand a "business plan that works", but then also demand the company do things that drive up its costs. Its the same problem throughout the company, union and management, everyone bangs the "cost savings" drumb, but no one is willing to accept cost cuts in their on area.
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What's wrong with the 12 hours it sat on the ground in the US with no check done. That's okay per management and its "Band of Believers" like you; let me guess, it's cost effective. :p :p

Let me ask you, what's cost effective about management getting 2 for 1 seniority?

2 for 1 at AA

[/QUOTE]Thus, we will continue to grant you two years of
credited service for each year of actual service, up to a maximum of ten
additional years of credited service.
:down: :down:

What's cost effective by management stating on the news, "that they have doubts, that they will ever make a profit again." :up: :up: Really going to attract lots of shareholders and banks with comments like that.

If this wasn't the most stupid remark coming out of HDQ, I don't know what is. Well nevermind, I just thought of other ones. Anyway, this must be part of the new AA slogan, "We know why you Fly," so we can lose money. :shock: :shock:
 
Reding was recruited for the job, the company made an offer, he either took it or made a counter offer. Sounds like negotiation, similar to the negotiation that goes on between companies and unions.

Did you actually expect the company to say, "Well Bob, we'd love to give you that 2 for 1, max 10 yrs seniority accural you requested, but we don't want to tick anyone off, especially amfaman."

All major corporations recruit top level management. If you don't think that's fair, then don't work for a major corporation.
 
"that they have doubts, that they will ever make a profit again."

Its not really stupid, its just reality.

"Band of Believers"

You seem to think that those that disagree with you have some how been dupped by management. Listen, there are plenty of people in management at the lower levels that don't like the way senior management treats the unions. Most people think they're too damn soft on the unions. People like you don't need to be working for AA, you're part of the problem not the solution. The best thing that could happen to AA is it to go into bankruptcy and have a judge blow all the union contracts up. Get rid of all the old, bitter, union crazies and bring in some people willing to work hard for a performance based salary, where the quality and productivity of your work determines your pay, not your seniority.
 
Oneflyer said:
Its not really stupid, its just reality.
You seem to think that those that disagree with you have some how been dupped by management. Listen, there are plenty of people in management at the lower levels that don't like the way senior management treats the unions. Most people think they're too damn soft on the unions. People like you don't need to be working for AA, you're part of the problem not the solution. The best thing that could happen to AA is it to go into bankruptcy and have a judge blow all the union contracts up. Get rid of all the old, bitter, union crazies and bring in some people willing to work hard for a performance based salary, where the quality and productivity of your work determines your pay, not your seniority.
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Oneflyer, if the union people don't work hard, then how do AA's 700+ aircraft get loaded, dispatched, and maintained safely 24 hours a day 365 days a year? We do this with significantly less people than we used to.( although the price is paid in terms of delays) Do you remember all the layoffs?
 
Oneflyer says "bring in some people willing to work for a performance based salary."


Yeah, like at USAir, $7.17/hour for 4 hours a day.
 

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