More Groups Wanting To Fire The TWU

[Kev3188]

That's exactly right. Old news.

But if the NMB lets us vote, the TWU is gone!

Is there any "new" news on any of this? What about the former elected TWU reps, and the alleged charges that were going to be brought up against them?

 

[scorpion 2]

But yet the members have failed for the past 20 years to accomplish that feat.

The whole industry has lost by the competitive edge coordinated by the twu to the company.  Even members of your IAM have had their numbers decimated by the actions of the twu. When the twu advocates a 2 tier pay scale (B scale, C scale, SRP/OSM classification) and the other unions didnt provide the same advantage what happened? Your fellow union brothers jobs were outsourced!
 
 The failures as you state have been accomplished through the combined efforts of the company and their pet union by over inflating the actual numbers that should be included in the craft n class count. Plumbers have their own craft union but since they work in a building that houses aircraft maintenance the company and union include them and are allowed to do so by the NMB.  The list goes on but you know the story.   

 

[AANOTOK]

Is there any "new" news on any of this? What about the former elected TWU reps, and the alleged charges that were going to be brought up against them?

Bob Owens has been a bit quiet here the last few days...I'm sure he would know

 

[Bogey]

The timing seemed awful going into negotiations. A new union potentially broke when it is time to negotiate an industry leading contract. It would have been great to show a unified front and expand conversation for scope issues. Hopefully we still can.

The TWU's cancelled all negotiations with the company May 1st. That's what pissed people off and in the end, that was the final straw.

 

[Bogey]

Is there any "new" news on any of this? What about the former elected TWU reps, and the alleged charges that were going to be brought up against them?

The NMB inestigated the charges of the TWU. We should hear something about an election soon.

The TWU sued the former board in civil court.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

$90K to Lee Seham for representing the new NAAP? Seems like it isn't the Int'l that is getting rich of TWU members dues money. Didn't 567 and 591 pay money to Seham as well to represent them? Why would Seham want the TWU members to be successful going to AMFA. He is getting rich of just keeping the internal discontent going at AA?
 
Noticing a pattern, BK lawyers got rich employees got nothing. Union raids, lawyers get rich and employees get the shaft (NWA, UA, & AS). Maybe we should get rid of the lawyers (including sh*thouse lawyers) and the unions? Nah...

 
Having many groups hire the Law firm of Seham & Seham says they must be good at what they do and are respected more than the TWU lawyers are.
 
L. Seham is not an AMFA Lawyer he is a Labor lawyer, and those who are in the industry hire them to get a job done. He does that for money just as you come to work here at AA for money.
 
Everyone who needs legal info/help hires the best in their opinion and also by what they can afford to pay.
Locals 591&567 must of thought his law firm would do a better job than the TWU's legal team. Thats says alot in itself now doesn't it.

 

[Bogey]

$90K to Lee Seham for representing the new NAAP? Seems like it isn't the Int'l that is getting rich of TWU members dues money. Didn't 567 and 591 pay money to Seham as well to represent them? Why would Seham want the TWU members to be successful going to AMFA. He is getting rich of just keeping the internal discontent going at AA?
 
Noticing a pattern, BK lawyers got rich employees got nothing. Union raids, lawyers get rich and employees get the shaft (NWA, UA, & AS). Maybe we should get rid of the lawyers (including sh*thouse lawyers) and the unions? Nah...

What the TWU doesn't tell you is they got back 90 percent off the money that was on retainer. 90k makes a great sound bite. A few grand doesn't.

 

[NYer]

   The timing seemed awful going into negotiations. A new union potentially broke when it is time to negotiate an industry leading contract. It would have been great to show a unified front and expand conversation for scope issues. Hopefully we still can. 

 
They were negotiating a contract and the International told them to stop, that seemed to be the last straw and they went their separate ways.
 
"The Company and the TWU started Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA) talks in Jan. 2014 and the TWU suspended talks indefinitely in May 2014." source: Integration information on Jetnet.

 

[NYer]

Is there any "new" news on any of this? What about the former elected TWU reps, and the alleged charges that were going to be brought up against them?

 
The TWU took the Officers to Civil Court. There doesn't seem to have any cases with the Department of Labor or the LMRDA. The civil case judge is considering a motion to dismiss.

 

[700UW]

You do realize Sehanm is also a labor busting attorney?

He represented Alatalia and El Al and other companies against unions especially during a strike and or a lockout.

Also pioneered the b scale concept and was fired by APA and USAPA.

 

[Bogey]

You do realize Sehanm is also a labor busting attorney?
He represented Alatalia and El Al and other companies against unions especially during a strike and or a lockout.
Also pioneered the b scale concept and was fired by APA and USAPA.

I would assume he would do whatever you pay him to do.

 

[Overspeed]

I don't think Lee Seham was involved in those cases. That was probably Martin Seham. The firm though does have a track record of labor busting and heavily involved in union raids. Sometimes after they are booted by the in-house union or independent association.

 

[WeAAsles]

What the TWU doesn't tell you is they got back 90 percent off the money that was on retainer. 90k makes a great sound bite. A few grand doesn't.

What I don't understand is why would the Law firm returned 90% of the funds if they did not have to? What was the compulsion if the local officers felt they were legally within their right to make that payment?  

 

[NYer]

What I don't understand is why would the Law firm returned 90% of the funds if they did not have to? What was the compulsion if the local officers felt they were legally within their right to make that payment?  

 
It was a retainer for future service. The TWU took receivership of the Local and cancelled the retainer.

 

[swamt]

That's exactly right. Old news.

But if the NMB lets us vote, the TWU is gone!

I honestly hope and pray that you are correct...