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The fact is that it is still a bad deal. And it was negotiated, like you mentioned, NOT abrogated. Why even ask why he's still working there? That's just like the typical management line of 'don't like it? then leave'.
 
700UW said:
And if the wages suck, why are you still working there?
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WHY? Can’t sell house/can’t commute/age/wife’s job/kids/taxes or just like where I live are just some reasons why some people stay in low pay jobs. Like I said you don’t pay my bills.
But the reason I stay is for the day when I kick your IAM union to the curb and replace it with another Just to bust your B#LLS..

Don't let the facts get in your way.
 
swamt said:
Can you smell the decertification of the teamsters by the NMB for fraud and forgery tactics during an election drive?
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I would not get your hopes up. We have seen tactics like this before. You guys say you have over 50% to file, Cool lets go! The only thing is all i hear is IBT at AA and some people will try to pull BS to stop a card Drive IBT/AMFA.

Jim Little said🙁Please inform me immediately as to whether these allegations are factual)

(IMO) Looks like Jim little gave himself a way out of a false acquisition made by some lower brain washed TWU member and a fine AMFA member would never do this! But a IAM brain washed 700, I would not put this past them trying that next at US with the IAM.
 
I know very little about the history of what union did or didn't do what for which airline way back when and all that, and I don't see any point on learning "the facts" since no one can seem to agree on the anyhow. All I have of the TWU and IBT are vague impressions based mostly on the untruths and misrepresentations posted here, but the Teamsters remind me of Donald Trump; a lot of boasting, bluster, veiled intimidation and really sounding like some guy trying to talk you into an alley to either shank you for your wallet or sell you a dimebag. The TWU? A prison b*tch.

I'm fleet, not M/R, but it's nice to know that if/when the IBT comes to us with cards I won't have to suffer the inconvenience of filling one out, it seems they'll be happy to do it for me...
 
Travis- you seem to be one of those people who want any union except the IAM. That's fine, but do your research before whoring yourself to the teamsters. The Ibt and AMFA are on different ends of the spectrum, in AMFA you have a voice, and in the Ibt you have the truck drivers voice. If you truly care about your craft, don't sell out to the teamsters, cos they only care about your dues and pension money.
 
blue collar said:
Travis- you seem to be one of those people who want any union except the IAM. That's fine, but do your research before whoring yourself to the teamsters. The Ibt and AMFA are on different ends of the spectrum, in AMFA you have a voice, and in the Ibt you have the truck drivers voice. If you truly care about your craft, don't sell out to the teamsters, cos they only care about your dues and pension money.
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blue collar I can't Afford to have the IAM or TWU in this new airline. As i have said: AA will decide what union will be in place but just in case this merger falls apart i need the IAM out and I do not see the numbers for AMFA at US.

I think i like whoring it out for the money with the teamsters other than taking it up the rear for nothing with the IAM

Have a good one and I Hope you can see my point. 🙂
 
TRAVIS said:
blue collar I can't Afford to have the IAM or TWU in this new airline. As i have said: AA will decide what union will be in place but just in case this merger falls apart i need the IAM out and I do not see the numbers for AMFA at US.

I think i like whoring it out for the money with the teamsters other than taking it up the rear for nothing with the IAM

Have a good one and I Hope you can see my point. 🙂
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I do get your point. As I have suggested, wait until the AMFA election is done at AA. Alot of people are very confident that AMFA will prevail. And as you stated (and I agree with you) as long as this merger holds up (I also think it will too) and AMFA wins representational election at AA, then as you also state I am pretty possitive that you guys at US will in fact become AMFA by the shear numbers, like it happend here at SWA with the purchase of AT, they just became AMFA from the shear numbers, not that they wanted to keep the teamsters after their pathetic representation during SLI nego's. Trust me Travis, you do not want the teamsters, stay IAM and wait and see. If the merger doesn't happen, or if for some crazy reason (or illeagal activity AMFA does not get in at AA, then yes you guys need to start a card drive.
 
swamt said:
I do get your point. As I have suggested, wait until the AMFA election is done at AA. Alot of people are very confident that AMFA will prevail. And as you stated (and I agree with you) as long as this merger holds up (I also think it will too) and AMFA wins representational election at AA, then as you also state I am pretty possitive that you guys at US will in fact become AMFA by the shear numbers, like it happend here at SWA with the purchase of AT, they just became AMFA from the shear numbers, not that they wanted to keep the teamsters after their pathetic representation during SLI nego's. Trust me Travis, you do not want the teamsters, stay IAM and wait and see. If the merger doesn't happen, or if for some crazy reason (or illeagal activity AMFA does not get in at AA, then yes you guys need to start a card drive.
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The IBT is in full swing card drive now, AMFA has no campaign at this time at US per your web sight and we can't take that chance, It's easy for you at $44.14 and US at $33.41 to say wait.. We are the ones on the BOTTOM and we have waited long enough.
As I have said if we don't want the IBT pension, with the higher wage (that the IAM / TWU can't get as we have seen,) We can put it in a 401K. MONEY TALKS BS WALKS.
AMFA needs to win at AA since you did not try to run a campaign at US that i have seen.
Good luck at AA.
 
IAM asks to be released from negotiations.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11875224/1/iam-wants-release-in-us-airways-contract-talks.html
 
that is strong words the iam leader used and it sure makes sense there good luck to all of the mechanics
 
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