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Are you really that ignorant?So you can't refute what TRAVIS posted about IAM facilitating concessions? They have collaborated with management and allowed US to drag out negotiations when they are making record profits. Fighting machinists indeed.
Josh
How many times does it have to be explained to you?
The IAM did not facilitate concessions, they were forced under Bankruptcy Law Section 1113 C to negotiate of face abrogation. Which happened.
How about this from the IBT:
Teamsters Broken Promises
Continental Mechanics Contract Betrayal 2005
In 2005 Continental Airlines was in concessionary contract negotiations with all its unions.
During the Teamsters mechanic contract negotiations the IBT entered into a stipulation
agreement that mechanics would enter into a concessionary agreement only if all other unions
also accepted contract concessions. The mechanics ratified the contract with this condition in
place for protection. If any union refused concessions the IBT mechanics concessionary
agreement would be null and void.
During negotiations the IAM Continental flight attendants refused to grant concessions to
Continental management.
The IBT mechanic negotiating committee was betrayed and discovered only after ratification
that Teamster union leadership had forced concessions on the mechanics in violation of their
written Tentative Agreement.
IBT Chief Steward and Negotiator – Writes an email blasting the Teamsters union leadership
for betraying the Continental mechanics and the negotiating committee.
IBT Airline Division Coordinator Don Triechler along with IBT legal council violated the
written agreement and forced the Continental Teamster mechanics to accept concessions and
then he pleads with the Continental membership for understanding.
Read IBT Betrays Continental Negotiating Committee 2005 at mechanicsforchange.com.
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Teamsters Broken Promises
Continental Mechanics Contract Betrayal 2005
In 2005 Continental Airlines was in concessionary contract negotiations with all its unions.
During the Teamsters mechanic contract negotiations the IBT entered into a stipulation
agreement that mechanics would enter into a concessionary agreement only if all other unions
also accepted contract concessions. The mechanics ratified the contract with this condition in
place for protection. If any union refused concessions the IBT mechanics concessionary
agreement would be null and void.
During negotiations the IAM Continental flight attendants refused to grant concessions to
Continental management.
The IBT mechanic negotiating committee was betrayed and discovered only after ratification
that Teamster union leadership had forced concessions on the mechanics in violation of their
written Tentative Agreement.
IBT Chief Steward and Negotiator – Writes an email blasting the Teamsters union leadership
for betraying the Continental mechanics and the negotiating committee.
IBT Airline Division Coordinator Don Triechler along with IBT legal council violated the
written agreement and forced the Continental Teamster mechanics to accept concessions and
then he pleads with the Continental membership for understanding.
Read IBT Betrays Continental Negotiating Committee 2005 at mechanicsforchange.com.
From: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:19 PM
Subject: Ratified Agreement
All,
It is with great regret that I must write this letter.
As your Chief Steward and member of the Negotiating Committee we put together a T/A with a contingency clause that we would agree to concessions as long as all the other workgroups agreed to theirs.
There was a waiver to that contingency clause proposed to us by the company in the final days of negotiations. That waiver is in the LOA covering the contingency. The premise was, the company did not want to see the whole deal be defeated should one of the two smaller ( Dispatchers, Flight Simulator) groups not ratify their agreements. It was our understanding that we would not ratify if the bigger (Pilots, Flight Attendants) groups failed to ratify.
At the very least, should one of those groups have not ratified (like the F/A's did not) it would have prompted some
discussion as to whether or not we would still want to exercise that waiver, and how we should proceed.
When I awoke this morning and checked my email I saw "Company Bulletin #10". After reading it and realizing that we had exercised that waiver, I was in disbelief. I did not have any e-mail's or phone calls from the IBT to support what I had read in the bulletin. When I checked the IBT website all I found was an announcement from yesterday afternoon that we had ratified our agreement, and in that announcement I also saw that it stated the duration was until March 1,
2009. It's no coincidence that I did not show up at work today until 0845 today. There was no way I could walk into there and expect you to believe me when I had to tell you "I did not know anything about it" If I were you, it would only leave me wondering "what else is he lying to me about".
As I sit here today (Thursday evening) writing this letter there is still nothing on the IBT website to confirm the IBT has granted the waiver nor clarification on the duration. For all I know he may have agreed to change that also. When we finally got a hold of Don today his explanation was that he did it to protect the strike price for the stock options. Guy's I'm sure you
all understand the stock options are no great selling piece. The options that each of you will CAL IBT Chief Steward email - Betrayed by IBT Airline Director. The truth of the matter is, Don Treichler (Airline Director) made the decision on his own to grant the waiver.
receive are anywhere from a new hire getting around 56 to a toped out guy getting around 190. At no time has anyone from our group here in CLE shown any great concern over even how many shares they would be getting. I'm sure that's in part, that you all understand how worthless they really are. I was also told that we (the negotiating committee) don't know what we negotiated in relation to that waiver. That coming from a man that never sit in for one minute of any of our negotiations.
As far as the duration thing goes, I bashed Don when the ballots went out with the cover sheet that reflected the March 2009 date. His excuse then was that the sheet was provided to him from Steve Greenwell and because of the last minute change by the pilots and our "me too clause" ours changed and he did not have time to correct it, as they had already begun making
up the packages that were sent out. He said as long as we were telling everyone of the December 2008 duration that would be alright. When I read the posting on the IBT website from yesterday and it reflects a March 2009 duration I am lead to believe something has changed or he really doesn't have a clue. Personally I tend to believe the latter. I wonder what his excuse will be this time.
Having put forth so much time and effort into tiring to achieve what I feel is the fairest, least painful, necessary thing that we as an organization and us as a company must do to survive these turbulent times that our industry is facing, I am disheartened as to how it ended. Not that granting the waiver was necessarily the wrong thing to do, but the way it went about and the lack of communication from the Airline Director, that it was done. The negotiating committee and the business agents have been hammering on Don all day. The phone number for the Don's office is (310) 645-9860. The phone number for the International is (202) 624-6800, ask for Hoffa or Keegel.
On behalf of the entire Negotiating Committee and Business Agents, I would like to extend my apologies for the way this all played out. Please take the time to call or write the International to express your opinions as I assure you, I will.
The address for the International is:
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
25 Louisiana Ave, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
Mike Meglich
P.S. I have a scheduled day off tomorrow (Friday), I'm done avoiding you.
CAL IBT Chief Steward email - Betrayed by IBT Airline Director, , Then to be belittled by the airline
director that we (the negotiating committee) didn't know what we negotiated was a total insult.
That coming from the man who still probably doesn't know the correct duration of our agreement.