M and R negotiations

[TRAVIS]

"As you are aware this coming July 1st you will receive a 3% base rate of pay increase. This will be the second 3% base rate of pay increase since the amenable date of the current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). These increases are outlined in Article 23 and while such a clause is not common in the airline industry this is the second time the IAM has negotiated such a provision into your contract. "
Very good for the mechanics

AND JUST WHAT WAS THE % OF COST OF LIVING EACH YEAR SINCE THE AMENABLE DATE AND JUST HOW FAR % WISE ARE WE UNDER PAID PER OTHER AMT'S! SO WE ARE RIGHT BACK TO WERE WE STARTED AT THE BOTTOM!

TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!! VOTE IBT

 

[delldude]

We need to work together now since the merger has been announced.
It is no longer you and me or us and them. It is WE as ONE from now on.
We can settle the seniority and other issues if we have the right union in place for the M&R. Turn away the Teamsters and get rid of the IAM. We are in the process of getting rid of the TWU and are telling the Teamsters to pound sand. It is working here at AA. The Teamsters stabbed the TWU in the back and do not have 50% of cards signed. They won't get it either because we will not allow them. The TWU is in a defensive mode and do not know what to do. The Teamsters betrayed Jim Little and a AMFA filing is coming soon.

But I got to take the kids to soccer.....

 

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[700UW]

Lets see the reamsters accomplishments at UA/CO:

Four years of negotiations and CO and UA remain under separate contracts.

Four years of still being separate operations with UA mechanics on layoffs and CO hiring and no jobs being offered to UA laid-off mechanics.

CO mechanics have a pension and UA doesnt.

IBT giving up work to the ramp, ie. aircraft movement for a holiday without a membership vote.

At UA for the massive size of their premerger fleet they only have four lines of mtc.

The ibt has the highest percentage of outsourcing in their passenger airlines they represent and at UPS they farmout all their heavy maintenance.

If they cant settle at UA and CO how do you expect them to achieve anything at US?

Mechanics for Change
UAL Mechanics Class and Craft
Providing a Democratic Voice for the UAL Mechanics and Related Class and Craft
Teamsters Broken Promises
Continental Mechanics Contract Betrayal 2005
In 2005 Continental Airlines was in concessionary contract negotiations with all its unions.
During the Teamsters mechanic contract negotiations the IBT entered into a stipulation
agreement that mechanics would enter into a concessionary agreement only if all other unions
also accepted contract concessions. The mechanics ratified the contract with this condition in
place for protection. If any union refused concessions the IBT mechanics concessionary
agreement would be null and void.
During negotiations the IAM Continental flight attendants refused to grant concessions to
Continental management.
The IBT mechanic negotiating committee was betrayed and discovered only after ratification
that Teamster union leadership had forced concessions on the mechanics in violation of their
written Tentative Agreement.
IBT Chief Steward and Negotiator – Writes an email blasting the Teamsters union leadership
for betraying the Continental mechanics and the negotiating committee.
IBT Airline Division Coordinator Don Triechler along with IBT legal council violated the
written agreement and forced the Continental Teamster mechanics to accept concessions and
then he pleads with the Continental membership for understanding.
Read IBT Betrays Continental Negotiating Committee 2005 at mechanicsforchange.com.
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN WITH YOUR CONTRACT AT UNITED.
IAMAW District 145 Aerospace Maintenance Workers - We will establish our own
District and Locals to represent the mechanics at United. We can elect honest union
leaders with the experience and a proven record defending the membership.
We will elect our contract negotiators to represent our membership during the
United/Continental merger process and negotiations.
Sign an IAMAW Card today for a stronger AFL-CIO union. For more information visit
our website at: www.mechanicsforchange.com.
From: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:19 PM
Subject: Ratified Agreement
All,
It is with great regret that I must write this letter.
As your Chief Steward and member of the Negotiating Committee we put together a T/A with a
contingency clause that we would agree to concessions as long as all the other workgroups
agreed to theirs.
There was a waiver to that contingency clause proposed to us by the company
in the final days of negotiations. That waiver is in the LOA covering the contingency. The premise
was, the company did not want to see the whole deal be defeated should one of the two smaller
( Dispatchers, Flight Simulator) groups not ratify their agreements. It was our understanding that
we would not ratify if the bigger (Pilots, Flight Attendants) groups failed to ratify.
At the very least,
should one of those groups have not ratified (like the F/A's did not) it would have prompted some
discussion as to whether or not we would still want to exercise that waiver, and how we should
proceed.
When I awoke this morning and checked my email I saw "Company Bulletin #10". After reading it
and realizing that we had exercised that waiver, I was in disbelief. I did not have any e-mail's or
phone calls from the IBT to support what I had read in the bulletin. When I checked the IBT
website all I found was an announcement from yesterday afternoon that we had ratified our
agreement, and in that announcement I also saw that it stated the duration was until March 1,
2009. It's no coincidence that I did not show up at work today until 0845 today. There was no way
I could walk into there and expect you to believe me when I had to tell you "I did not know
anything about it" If I were you, it would only leave me wondering "what else is he lying to me
about".
As I sit here today (Thursday evening) writing this letter there is still nothing on the
IBT website to confirm the IBT has granted the waiver nor clarification on the duration. For all I
know he may have agreed to change that also. When we finally got a hold of Don today his
explanation was that he did it to protect the strike price for the stock options. Guy's I'm sure you
all understand the stock options are no great selling piece. The options that each of you will
CAL IBT Chief Steward email - Betrayed by IBT Airline Director
The truth of the matter is, Don Treichler (Airline Director) made the decision on his own to grant
the waiver.
receive are anywhere from a new hire getting around 56 to a toped out guy getting around 190. At
no time has anyone from our group here in CLE shown any great concern over even how many
shares they would be getting. I'm sure that's in part, that you all understand how worthless they
really are. I was also told that we (the negotiating committee) don't know what we negotiated in
relation to that waiver. That coming from a man that never sit in for one minute of any of our
negotiations.
As far as the duration thing goes, I bashed Don when the ballots went out with the
cover sheet that reflected the March 2009 date. His excuse then was that the sheet was provided
to him from Steve Greenwell and because of the last minute change by the pilots and our "me too
clause" ours changed and he did not have time to correct it, as they had already begun making
up the packages that were sent out. He said as long as we were telling everyone of the
December 2008 duration that would be alright. When I read the posting on the IBT website from
yesterday and it reflects a March 2009 duration I am lead to believe something has changed or
he really doesn't have a clue. Personally I tend to believe the latter. I wonder what his excuse will
be this time.
Having put forth so much time and effort into tiring to achieve what I feel is the fairest, least
painful, necessary thing that we as an organization and us as a company must do to survive
these turbulent times that our industry is facing, I am disheartened as to how it ended. Not that
granting the waiver was necessarily the wrong thing to do, but the way it went about and the lack
of communication from the Airline Director, that it was done. The negotiating committee and the business agents have been hammering on Don all day. The
phone number for the Don's office is (310) 645-9860. The phone number for the International is
(202) 624-6800, ask for Hoffa or Keegel.
On behalf of the entire Negotiating Committee and Business Agents, I would like to extend my
apologies for the way this all played out. Please take the time to call or write the International to
express your opinions as I assure you, I will.
The address for the International is:
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
25 Louisiana Ave, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
Mike Meglich
P.S. I have a scheduled day off tomorrow (Friday), I'm done avoiding you.
CAL IBT Chief Steward email - Betrayed by IBT Airline Director
, Then to be belittled by the airline
director that we (the negotiating committee) didn't know what we negotiated was a total insult.
That coming from the man who still probably doesn't know the correct duration of our agreement.

 

[swamt]

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Is this the "official" kick-off for the AMFA "write-in" campaign at US airways? Wow! Never thought it would be you Travis. But the membership appreciates the thought of a democratic process and the option of having more democratic choices to vote for union representation. When you guys get your ballots, remember, a "write-in" is counted as a vote for union representation. Don't let anyone tell you guys that if you guys do not vote for either the IAM or the ibt that it will count as a vote for "non-representation", this is simply not true. If there is a vote called for by the NMB at AA for an election, there will be a "WRITE-IN AMFA" campaign kicked into high gear. You guys will also have the exact same option afforded to you guys to "WRITE-IN AMFA" if you guys so choose to do so. If the election is called for at AA, AMFA will more than likely be included on the ballot for a run-off election. If AMFA does get in at AA, then more than likely you guys at US will become AMFA after merger and integration is completed. Therefore you guys at US that still want to be AMFA represented when this is all said and done, then fire up the "WRITE-IN AMFA" It is truly democracy at work having these options afforded to the membership other than just the two unions listed on the ballot. Good luck to you guys during your election process. Great to see Travis officially kicking off the "WRITE-IN AMFA" campaign at US airways.

 

[TRAVIS]

Is this the "official" kick-off for the AMFA "write-in" campaign at US airways?

Its a little late to start a campaign but you AMFA boys have been known to be late from time to time.

 

[TRAVIS]

The ibt has the highest percentage of outsourcing in their passenger airlines they represent and at UPS they farmout all their heavy maintenance.

It takes time to fix all the IAM and AMFA screw ups and just look at you LIE! Getting your joint info from the TWU now call your EX and get some new mud .

NO WORK WAS OUTSOURCED TO CHINA UNDER THE TEAMSTERS’ WATCH
The TWU continues to spout lies about the record of the Teamsters at United Airlines. But Teamster mechanics at
UAL tell a very different story. Was heavy maintenance for 747 and 777 aircraft outsourced to China? Yes. Was it
the Teamsters who allowed that work to be outsourced? Nope!
Both the IAM and AMFA allowed thousands of mechanic jobs to be outsourced beginning in the late 1990s. In
2005, under AMFA, UAL signed the infamous deal with AMECO to perform maintenance on the B777 fleet at its
hanger in Beijing – you know, the same China outsourcing that the TWU likes to pin on the Teamsters. Since voting
in the Teamsters, UAL mechanics have seen work that was outsourced under the two previous unions
steadily being brought back in house.

http://www.teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/61413AAMechanicsOutsourcingFlier.pdf

 

[TRAVIS]

driver error??

 

[Socplat13]

Watch the video below of a 25 year United Mechanic from SFO. He know the Teamster BS firsthand. No cue card reading, real facts. Please view and get the facts before you cast you vote and Vote IAM.

 

[Socplat13]

It takes time to fix all the IAM and AMFA screw ups and just look at you LIE! Getting your joint info from the TWU now call your EX and get some new mud .

NO WORK WAS OUTSOURCED TO CHINA UNDER THE TEAMSTERS’ WATCH
The TWU continues to spout lies about the record of the Teamsters at United Airlines. But Teamster mechanics at
UAL tell a very different story. Was heavy maintenance for 747 and 777 aircraft outsourced to China? Yes. Was it
the Teamsters who allowed that work to be outsourced? Nope!
Both the IAM and AMFA allowed thousands of mechanic jobs to be outsourced beginning in the late 1990s. In
2005, under AMFA, UAL signed the infamous deal with AMECO to perform maintenance on the B777 fleet at its
hanger in Beijing – you know, the same China outsourcing that the TWU likes to pin on the Teamsters. Since voting
in the Teamsters, UAL mechanics have seen work that was outsourced under the two previous unions
steadily being brought back in house.

http://www.teamster....urcingFlier.pdf

Wrong. United and Ameco renewed their contract in 2010 through 2015 of maintaining UA's fleet of 747s and 777s under the teamsters watch. No caps on outsourcing heavy maintenance of all widebody aircraft. The IBT contract at pre-merger America West also contained absolutely no prohibition of outsourcing. IBT will lie about its record. Don't be deceived. Vote to protect your pension and seniority and job, Vote IAM.

 

[TRAVIS]

Wrong. United and Ameco renewed their contract in 2010 through 2015 of maintaining UA's fleet of 747s and 777s under the teamsters watch. No caps on outsourcing heavy maintenance of all widebody aircraft. The IBT contract at pre-merger America West also contained absolutely no prohibition of outsourcing. IBT will lie about its record. Don't be deceived. Vote to protect your pension and seniority and job, Vote IAM.

You IAM boys like to twist little half truths. Let’s start with your first TWIST AND MISLEAD OF THE FACTS. (Wrong. United and Ameco renewed their contract in 2010 through 2015 of maintaining UA's fleet of 747s and 777s under the teamsters watch. No caps on outsourcing heavy maintenance of all widebody aircraft.)
The Key word here is renewed outsourcing that was in place before IBT was voted in at UAL as I posted ( In 2005, under AMFA, UAL signed the infamous deal with AMECO to perform maintenance on the B777 fleet at its hanger in Beijing – you know, the same China outsourcing that the TWU likes to pin on the Teamsters. Since voting in the Teamsters, UAL mechanics have seen work that was outsourced under the two previous unions steadily being brought back in house.) And as anyone who has been in the industry will tell you once you let a company start to outsource it’s hard to get it back in house.

Now let’s set the TRUTH TO THE second TWISTS AND MISLEAD OF THE FACTS. (The IBT contract at pre-merger America West also contained absolutely no prohibition of outsourcing. IBT will lie about its record. Don't be deceived.) I was an AMERICA WEST AMT and was at AWA when they (AWA) shut down the hanger and fired 500 of my AMT brothers. We call that day BLACK FRIDAY. THE COMPANY CLOSED THE HANGER AND BACK SHOPS THEN OUTSOURCED ALL WORK OUT!
This was before the IBT was voted in at AWA.

SO THE OUTSOURCING WAS IN PLACE BEFORE THE IBT WAS VOTED IN AT AWA AND THEY WORKED HARD TO GET WORK BACK IN HOUSE AFTER WE VOTED THE IBT IN AND WHEN WE GOT OUTSOURCED WORK BACK IN HOUSE THE CONTRACT KEEPT IT IN HOUSE.
THE TRUE FACTS!

YOU AND 700 GO TO THE SAME SCHOOL OF IAM HALF TRUTHS AND MISLEADS?

HAVE A HAPPY IBT DAY!

 

[TRAVIS]

Tag team by the low ball boys.


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[700UW]

The teamsters failed to bring the work back inhouse

 

[TRAVIS]

The IAM has failed to bring US AIRWAYS AMT's even up to industry average pay!
NON-UNION airlines make more than US AIRWAYS and don't pay DUE's.
Each year we sink lower and lower.
The IAM has failed to bring back outsourced work back in house it lost under it's watch.

 

[700UW]

Your ibt at hp was way below industry, as a matter of fact since 2005 the former HP mechanics have seen a 33% increase in pay since their HP days.

I guess you cant understand that US Airways filed chapter 11 in 2002 and 2004 and that the current negotiations (put on hold since the ibt raid) are the first section 6 negotiations since 1999 CBA.

And actually from the 2005 abrogation cba more work was brought in in the 2008 transition agreement.

Dont let the facts get in your way.

And our chapter 11 CBA still was better than any hp ibt cba.

How about those forced concessions violating the ibt agreement on the ibt/CO mechanics in 2005?