Local 591 Nominees

[Tex-Mech]

Never been on the D V dole, or anyone else's dole. Just know that in years past there was someone designated by each local union to be a contact for the ASAP program, have no idea if each local paid for that service, but certainly the Company did not. If Housely was on the Ex BD at 567 (he was there at one time), and he did the gathering of ASAP info for 567 reports, his time was paid by the local with his salary you would think? Gordon Clark, never had input into ASAP, other than President of the MCI local. If people are paid OT for providing service to the membership, someone needs to end the payment. And a big no to the Observer being Oryano................

Nice of Overspeed got hold of you, since you were taking some hits.

I agree that the money should have been paid by the local, but that was not the case according to the LM2. Below is all Housely made from the union, and there was zero dollars reimbursed to AA. As the Swordfish said, Housely made it well known. And I can say that I heard this rumor many times being there.
DOUG HOUSELY
EXECUTIVE BOARD
C $5,546 $2,085 $1,214 $8,845

 

[Observer]

Overspeed did NOT contact me, and I read the threads once in awhile. Paying dues is paying for representation, whether it is in a grievance hearing, a grievance appeal at the chief operating officer level, or the ASAP program. Involvement in these processes is not for financial reward or gain. Did the long negotiations that all the local presidents and committee members go through cause them to be paid OT? Local union comp is up to the local membership......................

 

[Tex-Mech]

Overspeed did NOT contact me, and I read the threads once in awhile. Paying dues is paying for representation, whether it is in a grievance hearing, a grievance appeal at the chief operating officer level, or the ASAP program. Involvement in these processes is not for financial reward or gain. Did the long negotiations that all the local presidents and committee members go through cause them to be paid OT? Local union comp is up to the local membership......................

I can totally agree with you on this point, and I would expect that you agree that the ASAP program is not to be used for financial gain from AA by some getting two hours of OT a day. If the membership wants to pay it, then by all means pay the guys. But is this is a deal that was cut by the international that some people under the contract get paid 2 hours of pay a day more than the rest of us, it is wrong and needs to be exposed and stopped.

BTW...I used to hear the same thing about some of the 567 eboard getting the two hour payment from the company. I say that we make all those involved with the locals or international show us their W2's. That ought to put this to bed.

 

[BigMac]

If you truly want out of the TWU sign a AMFA card today and we will get a election!

Signed one and passed them out pre 9/11 and in 2011.
Now it's 2013 and we are still TWU.
The rules and bylaws may change but the elected officals will be the same in my opinion. We tend to get unelected jacka$$es in office that no one seems to know how they were elected.

 

[aapitbull]

Signed one and passed them out pre 9/11 and in 2011.
Now it's 2013 and we are still TWU.
The rules and bylaws may change but the elected officals will be the same in my opinion. We tend to get unelected jacka$$es in office that no one seems to know how they were elected.

Well thanks for helping out in the past but I am talking about today, if you have not signed a card in the last 12 months then yours is no longer any good so please sign again. AMFA cards were not signed in 2011 that was AMP different group. As far as why you have not gotten a election you can thank the IBT they recruited me last year I politely declined because we where already a month into a AMFA drive I told them if they come in they will splt the vote and the most likely winner would be the TWU they told me that did not matter the only thing that mattered was that AMFA did not gain another foothold in the industry. Well here we are AMFA and IBT split and you stuck with the TWU so I say again sign the card and lets get this over with.

For anyone out there saying well what about the teamsters my answer is simple they are the same as the TWU just a bunch of self appointed overpaid company boys and I already have that If I go teamsters i get to pay nearly double the dues for the same crappy representation and even I am not that foolish.

 

[Tex-Mech]

Well here we are AMFA and IBT split and you stuck with the TWU so I say again sign the card and lets get this over with.

aapitbull,

Since we are currently stuck thanks to the teamsters, and in an attempt to get this thread back on track, do you have any reccomendations for this scam local 591 vote? I personally will not vote for any team videtich or teamsters supporters.

 

[BigMac]

Correct.. it was AMP in '11. Found extra cards in my console. Of course AMP and AMFA were one in the same practically.

 

[Overspeed]

But you knew enough to answer for Vanderlo-oops!

I was, but the IEC has decided to liquidate our Local.

I asked Bob VDL about what he does and have contacted him about a transfer problem I had. You talk a lot of BS from afar without knowing much. That is precisely why you got played in negotiations. Electing you is a vote for more angry rhetoric with no results. What's the strategy for next negotiations Bob? Drag it out for four more years, blame the union, blame new CEO Doug, ask for release, then cry that the union, company, and the NMB are in bed together.

Maybe you should have fought harder for the UBB. That way you could keep your unearned Sat/Sun, Day Shift, VC whenever you want it, unlimited travel for junkets, and the extra $22K you pocketed each year.

If you are going to live in glass houses don't throw stones brother. The truth is that representatives if all unions get compensated per their own individual plans or policies. Calm down Bob, once you unleash the Karl Rove election campaign tactics you will be right back in right?

You're a funny guy Bob. You destroyed the 562 clubhouse from within and your solider Chuck bailed on you.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Don,

"The IBT uses business agents that are appointed as well."

That's right! The twu and teamsters are the same... unaccountable. Wait, the teamsters will charge you more for the same type of undemocracy.

By the way, Oryano was not elected back into office but after losing he mysteriously found himself working for the international.

 

[Tex-Mech]

By the way, Oryano was not elected back into office but after losing he mysteriously found himself working for the international.

Nice how those who lose always move up at the international. It has to be the biggest collection of losers assembled in one place ever.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Nice how those who lose always move up at the international. It has to be the biggest collection of losers assembled in one place ever.

After selling their soul for a few pieces of silver they get an alias after trading in their spine.

 

[aapitbull]

aapitbull,

Since we are currently stuck thanks to the teamsters, and in an attempt to get this thread back on track, do you have any reccomendations for this scam local 591 vote? I personally will not vote for any team videtich or teamsters supporters.

If the TWU Intl supports them I would run not walk away from them, while I do not believe it will change a thing and based on the fact that I am in bad standing and will not be allowed to vote I would say back Peterson Schaible Owens Ruiz Absolon Mishack but that just my humble opinion. To Big Mac Once again sign that card and no AMP and AMFA were not the same thing similar constitution but not affliated.

 

[Overspeed]

After selling their soul for a few pieces of silver they get an alias after trading in their spine.

The pot calling the kettle black I see. You got Don V to get the company to open an extra slot when there was no more in DFW so you could go, took cash from the ARSA who wants the FAA to relax regulations on repair stations and licensed A&P work overseas, and you accept money from AA corporate.

Is oryano running? I did not see his name on the ballot. This is a thread having to do with the candidates on the ballot for 591.

 

[Vortilon]

I asked Bob VDL about what he does and have contacted him about a transfer problem I had. You talk a lot of BS from afar without knowing much. That is precisely why you got played in negotiations. Electing you is a vote for more angry rhetoric with no results. What's the strategy for next negotiations Bob? Drag it out for four more years, blame the union, blame new CEO Doug, ask for release, then cry that the union, company, and the NMB are in bed together.

Maybe you should have fought harder for the UBB. That way you could keep your unearned Sat/Sun, Day Shift, VC whenever you want it, unlimited travel for junkets, and the extra $22K you pocketed each year.

If you are going to live in glass houses don't throw stones brother. The truth is that representatives if all unions get compensated per their own individual plans or policies. Calm down Bob, once you unleash the Karl Rove election campaign tactics you will be right back in right?

You're a funny guy Bob. You destroyed the 562 clubhouse from within and your solider Chuck bailed on you.

You sure like to run your mouth. Anybody that has read this BB to any extent, knows where Bob's heart is on AMT issues. On the other hand, we have TWU suck boys like you CIO, HSS, etc.. You and your comrades serve no other purpose - than to take care of the international posers, by screwing line AMTs out of benefits and pay - to keep the dues payer headcount up. Your strategy of fear, and of badmouthing AMFA has been effective in Tulsa only. The Line AMTs have been on to you scumbags for over 25 years.

As an aside, I will second AAPITBULL'S recomendations from the above post as well.

 

[Wretched Wrench]

By the way, Oryano was not elected back into office but after losing he mysteriously found himself working for the international.

It has been that way since the mid-sixties (at least). Probably before, too. Loyalty to the TWU International is always rewarded. Even if they have to create a new position and title for the voted-out loyalist. In Oriyano's case, the newly-created position is "TWU Business Process and Research Analyst", (whatever that is).

Loyalty to the membership is not recognized by the International. In fact, it is seen as disloyalty. They are just a bunch of Fat Cats consolidating their power and lining their pockets with members' dues.