Local 514 vote yes rally

[odie01]

AA just announced that they are ready to study the sale and all merger options.

Why the Fu## should we sign a 6 year deal when the management team promising all the saved jobs will be out the door before 2013 ?!!!! VOTE NO, prolong negotiations and let Horton and crew self demote with the help of the creditors.

 

[Bob Owens]

Keep in mind, his priority is getting AA out of BK...
It's all been done before.

But has anyone wanted as much as AA? Look at what they are demanding, there is nothing in the industry to compare it to.

 

[Bob Owens]

Well Hanger 5 must believe in the Tooth Fairy also. Honestly people...you really believe that Horton and his minions will keep their word on layoffs and such ?

The question is did the company ever intend on immediately shedding 4500 jobs in the first place or did they just throw it out there for the effect, then when they move it down to their real target it looks like jobs, that were not really at risk in the first place, were saved?

The point is they are going to do what they want anyway, and we are giving them the ability to do it at their leisure by giving up system protection and up to 55% outsourcing.

Consider this, the contract passes, as the 757s and MD-80s go away whats left? 737s. Well doesnt AA own enough real estate in DFW to do C-checks there? Look at the DWH language. They could use the hangars they have for the 737 C-checks.

 

[cf6mech]

IMO the pilots and F/As will cause utter hell in day to day operations and will very possibly shut this carrier down if there "ask" terms are imposed. They (unlike the TWU)have had enough & will act. Exactly why we should be on board with them as well. If not now, when?

I have been saying this for a long time,....it matters absolutely NOTHING what we vote on or agree too in this contract......NADA ! ,.........As the Pilots and F/A's will shut this place down if term sheets are imposed on them,....the company knows that....the company and Jim Little are rushing these all time low consessionary contracts through to rob Peter (us), to pay Paul (pilots n F/A's).....we and the TWU are the weak link. You vote yes and you are giving your pay and benefits to fund the other contracts,.....you vote yes thats one step closer for the company to complete its immoral bankruptcy,....You vote yes and your voting with the company and the belief in their strategies,...that you differ from the other two work groups and you DO have CONFIDENCE in this current leadership .Little should of done what the other groups did and walked away from the table and not bring this joke of a contract before us. Vote no and be considered side by side with the non weak links the F/A's and Pilots.

 

[Lloyd Grey]

NO!

 

[odie01]

AFW IS A SOLID NO !!!!!! DO NOT LOCK US INTO A 6-8 YEAR DEAL WHEN A MERGER OR SALE IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER!!! THEIR IS ABSOLUTLY NO JOB PROTECTION, AND IT'S FULL OF LOOPHOLES THAT BENEFIT THE COMPANY!!!
PLEASE WATCH THE VOTE NO VIDEOS AND GET THE FACTS!!!!!



Subject: Before you vote....Watch what the Local Presidents Have to say Locals 561, 562, 564 and 565......


Supported by 563 & 567. Please FWD and FWD and FWD



Date: Monday, May 7, 2012, 4:42 PM


The local Presidents have something to say and in order to make the best decision possible please watch what the people sitting at the table during negotiations have to say about this deal. There are 2 parts to this video going over each topic. It is all our responsibility to inform each member that these videos exist and to get our co workers informed and prepped before the vote even if we have to burn the videos on disk and play on the TV in the break rooms. It is a scary time for many and the company is going to use that against you but we are here to shine a light and deepen your knowledge of what is going on so that you can make the best decision you can for you and your family. Good Luck Brothers and Sisters. Remember a slap across the face by a deck of playing cards hurts way more than getting slapped with a single card. That shows you the true power of sticking together. In Solidarity and good Luck.


Kenny Powell


You tube Channel with all videos > click here


Local presidents video (PART 1 of 2) > click here


Local presidents video (PART 2 of 2) > click here








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[Boomer]

Looking over all of the term sheets, I did not see a hard freeze on the pensions for the Pilot's and the F/A's; wonder why?

On the TWU side of the house: only M&R and the MCC got hit with an additional, "and/or excise tax," if the company and the union successfully obtained the requested relief from the Sect. 1114 hearings; all other TWU represented labor groups had that clause stricken through in the specific language.

Didn't have a lot of time to look for other, more meaningfull differences; but, you know that with the TWU, it is what the company doesn't say becomes the language the TWU tells you later they will fight like he!! to fix.

 

[odie01]

Merger very likely, do not lock into POS contract!!!

http://blogs.star-telegram.com/sky_talk/2012/05/photos-from-pilots-protest-march-on-american-headquarters.html

 

[787nightmare]

I have been saying this for a long time,....it matters absolutely NOTHING what we vote on or agree too in this contract......NADA ! ,.........As the Pilots and F/A's will shut this place down if term sheets are imposed on them,....the company knows that....the company and Jim Little are rushing these all time low consessionary contracts through to rob Peter (us), to pay Paul (pilots n F/A's).....we and the TWU are the weak link. You vote yes and you are giving your pay and benefits to fund the other contracts,.....you vote yes thats one step closer for the company to complete its immoral bankruptcy,....You vote yes and your voting with the company and the belief in their strategies,...that you differ from the other two work groups and you DO have CONFIDENCE in this current leadership .Little should of done what the other groups did and walked away from the table and not bring this joke of a contract before us. Vote no and be considered side by side with the non weak links the F/A's and Pilots.

EXACTLY!

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Yep.

"The role of the bankruptcy court as little more than an adjunct of corporate management was underscored by the decision of Judge Wedoff to impose a wage cut double the amount demanded by United. Wedoff also imposed concessions on United mechanics two years ago, after they rejected an earlier round of concessions. Afterwards, the mechanics voted to leave the International Association of Machinists and join the AMFA."

So under the IAM the UAL mechanics rejected concessions and voted to leave and join AMFA (an independent union) because they would get a better deal. Then the BK judge spanked them with a doubling up on the concessions the Company wanted.

OS, what is this from?? A judge imposing concessions?? I'm sorry but I believe the court rules in favor of or denies motions!!

If you want to make a point post some actual court documents so we all can see what transpired, and not just spread fear.........

 

[Frank Szabo]

OS, what is this from?? A judge imposing concessions?? I'm sorry but I believe the court rules in favor of or denies motions!!

If you want to make a point post some actual court documents so we all can see what transpired, and not just spread fear.........

Consider - "Overspeed" is in a situation where if the cuts are deep enough his super seniority won't keep him/her in a job and living the high life at our expense.

My heart bleeds purple panther piss for you, "brother overspeed", but they can do that.

😛

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[odie01]

What about the new planes? Any language in the contract on who works on them???? Tom loves them!



The Boeing 787 Dreamliner comes to Dallas/Fort Worth



Boeing’s new 787 Dreamliner aircraft, the long and eagerly awaited high-tech, passenger-friendly and fuel-sipping aircraft that represents much of commercial aviation’s future arrived Friday.
The Dreamliner’s worldwide tour dropped into the airport, home of American Airlines, which expects to receive the first of its 787s in late 2014.
“Wow. Is that a great-looking bird?... It’s going to look better in silver,” American CEO Tom Horton said in a brief ceremony after the plane arrived.
“Today,” Horton said, “we get another glimpse of AA’s future.” American has placed firm orders for 48 787s and has options for 52.
A crowd of at least a couple of hundred invited guests, members of news media and airport and American employees cheered and applauded as the blue Boeing plane with distinctively upswept wings landed and taxied to an American maintenance hangar.
Boeing staff members invited the throng to inspect the interior, seating arrangements and cockpit of the world’s most advanced airliner.
How American will finish the carbon-fiber composite Dreamliner remains to be seen, especially as an American official said the airline is rethinking the future livery, or paint scheme, of its planes. Composite doesn’t offer the look of American’s traditional polished aluminum finish.
American Airlines is studying whether to adopt a new look for its jets, which sport the oldest livery among major U.S. carriers and an iconic polished-aluminum finish in use since the 1930s.
“We have made a decision to embark on a modernization of our brand,” Chief Commercial Officer Virasb Vahidi said in an interview with Bloomberg News. “That could culminate with a potentially new livery and logo — that’s something we are evaluating.”
Here are photos of the aircraft by Star-Telegram photographer Brandon Wade.

Read more here: http://startelegram.typepad.com/sky_talk/#storylink=cpy​