Industrial vs. Craft

[Raptorman49]

Dan,

Winning is everything? Okay, but what if you have
to lie to win? The teamsters say they are democratic
but you don't get to vote on who heads their Airline
Division. The twu claims they are democratic yet you
don't get to vote on who runs their ATD or international
reps.
When trying to win an election the truth matters. Forget
Obama, I'm talking about people who want to protect
our craft now and in the future.

I'm not talking about Lieing, I'm talking about Exposure, visibility etc. That's how actors win Elections & Obama won they all had lots of exposer .... It matters a lot.

 

[Raptorman49]

Teamsters for AA website accessible from company computers http://WWW.teamster.org/aamx

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

It's High Time
Teamsters Organize Legal Marijuana Growers
by DAVID MACARAY
The IBT (International Brotherhood of Teamsters) recently announced that in early September it had organized approximately 40 employees of Marjyn Investments LLC, an Oakland, California, company that grows and processes medical marijuana.
By ratifying a two-year contract (which included wages of up to $26 per hour in the contract’s second year, plus vacation, health insurance and pension benefits), Marjyn’s employees—marijuana gardeners, trimmers, cloners—became members of Teamster Local 70. Chalk up one for organized labor.

So the teamsters organize 40 people from a medical marijuana
company. Do teamster supports really want to support an
industrial union that will organize anyone?

 

[Buck]

Is Capt David Bourne a practice AMT at any airline?

 

[Brain]

AMFA us NO..... Democratic Union!!!!!!!

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

I'm not talking about Lieing, I'm talking about Exposure, visibility etc. That's how actors win Elections & Obama won they all had lots of exposer .... It matters a lot.

You're not talking about lying?

Maybe you should reread the first part of my post that you responded to then, because I WAS talking about lying.

What you don't seem to realize is all that exposure is a lie.

All that "fluff" the ibt tosses out during a campaign is to cover their lies and lack of accountability. Its truely sad if you're that easily blinded to the truth of the ibt simply because they handed you a t-shirt and some stickers etc etc.

Very Sad

 

[Raptorman49]

You're not talking about lying?

Maybe you should reread the first part of my post that you responded to then, because I WAS talking about lying.



All that "fluff" the ibt tosses out during a campaign is to cover their lies and lack of accountability. Its truely sad if you're that easily blinded to the truth of the ibt simply because they handed you a t-shirt and some stickers etc etc.

Very Sad

Not talking about me, my point was the masses want & need to see visibility, they respond to it doesn't matter if they should or shouldn't they do, the Ibt gets that & gives them what they need, If AMFA doesn't do it then they lose.
Advertisement is what I'm talking, when saying. visibility & exposure.

 

[Overspeed]

It's High Time
Teamsters Organize Legal Marijuana Growers
by DAVID MACARAY
The IBT (International Brotherhood of Teamsters) recently announced that in early September it had organized approximately 40 employees of Marjyn Investments LLC, an Oakland, California, company that grows and processes medical marijuana.
By ratifying a two-year contract (which included wages of up to $26 per hour in the contract’s second year, plus vacation, health insurance and pension benefits), Marjyn’s employees—marijuana gardeners, trimmers, cloners—became members of Teamster Local 70. Chalk up one for organized labor.

So the teamsters organize 40 people from a medical marijuana
company. Do teamster supports really want to support an
industrial union that will organize anyone?

Do AMTs want to support a union whose organizers team up with ARSA who wants to have airlines outsource more work? Did you give the money back Ken. Where is your integrity? Was it hush money? Do members want to accept the words of person who supports a group that wants all overhaul AMTs to work at a MRO for $15/hour with no benefits? That's who you are in bed with Ken.

 

[iluvaa]

Do AMTs want to support a union whose organizers team up with ARSA who wants to have airlines outsource more work? Did you give the money back Ken. Where is your integrity? Was it hush money? Do members want to accept the words of person who supports a group that wants all overhaul AMTs to work at a MRO for $15/hour with no benefits? That's who you are in bed with Ken.

Did you ever answer informers question about why the TWU or you have never said a thing about the teamsters raiding them are you going to admit that it was a planned event

 

[Vortilon]

AMFA us NO..... Democratic Union!!!!!!!

What.....a tard..

 

[Buck]

What.....a tard..

What was he trying to say?

 

[Raptorman49]

Do AMTs want to support a union whose organizers team up with ARSA who wants to have airlines outsource more work? Did you give the money back Ken. Where is your integrity? Was it hush money? Do members want to accept the words of person who supports a group that wants all overhaul AMTs to work at a MRO for $15/hour with no benefits? That's who you are in bed with Ken.

Just wondering do you have Issues with Ken ??? LOL
That was sarcasm of course.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Not talking about me, my point was the masses want & need to see visibility, they respond to it doesn't matter if they should or shouldn't they do, the Ibt gets that & gives them what they need, If AMFA doesn't do it then they lose.
Advertisement is what I'm talking, when saying. visibility & exposure.

And again....you responded to my post.....I was emphasizing that this fluff is a lie. You don't seem willing to refute it, you seem intent on justifying it somehow as a marketing ploy.

Do the ends justify the means to you? Are you fine with the teamsters buying their way onto the property with trinkets and false promises?

As before, Very Sad

 

[TWU informer]

Do AMTs want to support a union whose organizers team up with ARSA who wants to have airlines outsource more work? Did you give the money back Ken. Where is your integrity? Was it hush money? Do members want to accept the words of person who supports a group that wants all overhaul AMTs to work at a MRO for $15/hour with no benefits? That's who you are in bed with Ken.

Do AMT's want to support another industrial Union that will be worse than the one we already have?

The TWU sucks and needs to be replaced.

The Teamsters will be the worst union that money can buy.

There's only ONE Mechanic's Union!

Sign your AMFA card!
VOTE AMFA

 

[Raptorman49]

And again....you responded to my post.....I was emphasizing that this fluff is a lie. You don't seem willing to refute it, you seem intent on justifying it somehow as a marketing ploy.

Do the ends justify the means to you? Are you fine with the teamsters buying their way onto the property with trinkets and false promises?

As before, Very Sad

Dude forget about me, I'm one person the masses who have to sign cards are who you need to worry about not one person that already signed a card, I mean nothing in the big scheme of things, go tell the masses to forget about the trinkets & the billboards etc. Good luck with that.

Seriously your wasting valuable time with me "I ALREADY SIGNED A CARD".