Raptorman49
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You ever wonder why AMFA cards require a stamp & Teamster catds dont ?? Hmmm might have something to do with Available resources.
Industrial vs. Craft
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You have $10 Million on your Local's bank ledger now. If you want resources, you best stick with the TWU 514.
And yet you seek change so bad, you will accept a Union that Organzied Crime will take over your resources.
Let us know how those resources of $10 million are working for ya
You wont lead, and now you wont even pay the cost of a stamp!!!
Just Great McCoy
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Raptorman49
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AMFA goal of getting all Mechanics in the same Union isnt working out so well being as their losing Members not gaining them, United/Continental jusy recently.
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The Majority of the AMT Profession has been represented by the Industrial Unions for over 60 years.
And the profession keeps getting worse. Proven Failed Record. A long proven failed record.
Strength in Numbers, Strength in Resources, Strength in Followers, Strength in Appointees.
None have been true.
If it is more members you want McCoy then stick with the concessions for jobs program and you will get all the members you can stand. You give up pay and benefits, and the union will grow in membership size. You really are an industrial unionist, are you not?
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Raptorman49
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You should Ignore me Dave as you suggested because as I previously stated I am NOT a big fish in the Teamsters pond so nothing to be concerned about, I have only collected about 100 cards so far but it has only been 2 weeks into the drive, of course 35 of those were from my shop.
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The ONLY agenda I have at the present is to replace the TWU with a different Union that can actually get enough cards to get to an Election & from my perspective that is the Teamsters, I'll leave the bigger agenda to you, hey their are a lot of people in my shop who haven't signed AMFA cards so you should come talk to them & show them the error of their ways & talk them into signing AMFA cards ..... I would enjoy watching you try.
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In other words, You are happy with the twu. IBT is sponsored by the twu to water down the AMFA card drive, not to bright are you?
Raptorman49
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Umm No I want the Teamsters to replace the TWU, maybe AMFA is in league with the TWU so by supporting them your really supporting the TWU .... HMMM how do you like your strange logic used against you ?
Raptorman49
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I say what I mean & I mean what I say ..... Don't read into it or change it to suit your needs.
Raptorman49
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The fact is their are two card drives going on & I'm fine with that, I sign ANY competing Union card that is offered to me so I am not keeping any competing Union from getting enough cards, the Union with the most Support will get enough & the majority will rule, that is the premise behind Unionism .... Majority rule.
So its all good no matter how it turns out.
So its all good no matter how it turns out.
Raptorman49
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Anything is possible, think whatever you like.
Raptorman49
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Trying to Piss people off thinking it will help your cause makes no sense at all, it is a great way to turn people against AMFA though, its funny how you don't see that.
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The perceived insults are coming from within you not from outside. The agressive nature of the postings is coming from your claim that the Teamsters is more popular on the Tulsa Base than AMFA, and then admitting that you have only 100 signed Teamster Cards.
There are 4500 or so on the Tulsa Base, and appx 12,000 system wide and you have 100 signed cards and have declared the winner. This is what leads to readers to attack your integrity, because you open the door with your own statements.
You need to focus on changing the direction of this profession. Instead you are about revenge against the TWU for those transgressions caused by lack of leadership. You want to be the agent of change, and then bail out on a leadership role, and that is what we have now. I doubt that you or me will be around long enough to see this profession transformation complete and you want to place the whole idea into a rush to judgement and score the outcome within days of it all starting, and you have zero patience. I am hopeful to leave something better for the younger AMT's. You still react on emotional outburst, and many view this as a weakness and will exploit that character flaw to advance their own position. You have entered the Politics of Unionism, but you want to remain expempt from it's pitfalls. I am afraid is doesn't work that way McCoy. You take on leadership roles in the Teamsters drive, but do not want to be the leader. You want a craft union, but keep being a cheerleader for an industrial union. Just take a step back, and you will see why you are becoming the target. But by all means, keep going until you finally get a real grip on what you want, and how you want to get it. Leave the emotions out of this, or be prepared for more targeting. "It is what it is"
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I have collected a 100 Teamsters cards, the drive has collected much more than that, as I said I am not a major player in the Teamster drive.
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