Nic,
On this we can agree. Guinness is good, Smithwicks is also good, but as the bartender at O'neill's says "lads, try a Galway hooker, it'll be the cheapest hooker you ever purchase!"
Regards,
Bob
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On this we can agree. Guinness is good, Smithwicks is also good, but as the bartender at O'neill's says "lads, try a Galway hooker, it'll be the cheapest hooker you ever purchase!"
Regards,
Bob
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Not to contradict what I've said earlier as I agree with many here that the CLT ramper in the case of the OP was justified in his action if not attitude, I can say it's very rare that I ever see a pilot being challenged for SIDA, if ever I have at all. I think there are two main reasons for this:
1. It's easier to pretend you don't see them if/when they're chilling on the jetbridge stairs or walking to the smoking area. If they're wearing their employee badge and silly backer and are in uniform I assume like the vast majority of our pilots they're competent enough to do what they're there for without getting hurt or breaking anything (unless they've got a gun lol). As such I've once or twice given rides to pilots from one concourse to another if I see them crossing the alley with all their crap and jacket in the middle of July. Who has ever heard of a pilot getting a SIDA challenge at the smoking area? Nobody, including the supervisors down there puffing away and shooting the breeze with them.
2. They'll probably get fussy if you do and that's just a waste of time.
That said, if the situation ever were that I thought there was a reasonable cause to ask a pilot to vacate the ramp (my ramp?) I would be within my rights to ask him or her to do so, even though I've yet to be in such a situation. The disconnect here is that there's a legitimate policy that's rarely enforced, even by those supposed to be enforcing enforcement, so that when someone actually does abide by it, it becomes a really big deal on the internet and everyone gets massively butthurt about it.
1. It's easier to pretend you don't see them if/when they're chilling on the jetbridge stairs or walking to the smoking area. If they're wearing their employee badge and silly backer and are in uniform I assume like the vast majority of our pilots they're competent enough to do what they're there for without getting hurt or breaking anything (unless they've got a gun lol). As such I've once or twice given rides to pilots from one concourse to another if I see them crossing the alley with all their crap and jacket in the middle of July. Who has ever heard of a pilot getting a SIDA challenge at the smoking area? Nobody, including the supervisors down there puffing away and shooting the breeze with them.
2. They'll probably get fussy if you do and that's just a waste of time.
That said, if the situation ever were that I thought there was a reasonable cause to ask a pilot to vacate the ramp (my ramp?) I would be within my rights to ask him or her to do so, even though I've yet to be in such a situation. The disconnect here is that there's a legitimate policy that's rarely enforced, even by those supposed to be enforcing enforcement, so that when someone actually does abide by it, it becomes a really big deal on the internet and everyone gets massively butthurt about it.
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Once again, go back and watch the PHX crew news. People are getting pretty fed up with your little job action. Care to tell us why 4 pilots were called in the office last week? I'll tell you why. It was a shot across the bow from the company. Your fake union does not even bother going through the proper process for a legal job action. Rules don't apply to Usapians that is the reason you find yourselves in court.
There are people sympathetic to Usapians slowing the operation down and inconveniencing our paying passengers. If my flight is delayed because of an illegal job action, I am not taking the fall. The reason for my delay goes in the report.
Gamble with your career but leave me out of your ILLEGAL job action.
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This reminds me of The Andy Griffith Show, you know, the one where Goober Pyle makes the "Citizen's arrest, citizen's arrest."
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My new nickname for you is Itchy McSnitchy. Itchy is a name for a rat. Rats have fleas, hence they are itchy.
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LOL....How did you come up with that creative little nursery rhyme. Oh,a kid with an internet connection.
Love the avatar, geek.
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The op is a bigger idiot than I thought the more he posts the more he proves it. I think we should just let him come on down to the ramp & do his pre flight without an airplane being there & make a phone call to the right folks let them come out & find mr company man & see what happens to him.
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I have a right to walk around the aircraft as a part of my duties in CLT, PHX, PHL or wherever. I get it, agents in CLT are nervous for being watched. Why are they being watched? I've never been approached by the FAA except once in the late 80's for a ramp check. Never on a walk around.
I think they have bigger fish to fry. Major BS flag on this one, Driver.
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That's because you are doing what you are allowed to do. No one wants a confrontation I know I don't but the op had no business on the ramp as he didn't have the proper id.
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What idiot is going to interfere with a crewmember doing his duties? Let's see what happens to the idiot after his trip to the emergency room to remove a size 11 boot out of his a&$.
(a) General Rule.— An individual who physically assaults or threatens to physically assault a member of the flight crew or cabin crew of a civil aircraft or any other individual on the aircraft, or takes any action that poses an imminent threat to the safety of the aircraft or other individuals on the aircraft is liable to the United States Government for a civil penalty of not more than $25,000.
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Please explain to me what your crewmember duties are on the ramp with out an airplane being there ?
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snapthis (Itchy McSnitchy) and cactuspilot1 are apparently one and the same.
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HC,
I have never had an escort to go to ops. Example, Vegas and Houston. Are you suggesting that I can no longer visit ops?
Hey, man I'd love to play some more. I gotta fly. Sure is muggy and hot here on the EC. I'm ready for some dry heat.
Y'all have fun today.
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