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[SWA.TECH]

Ok xNUT,
You must be off your meds or are just trying to bait us now.

Are you just bored and trying to have some fun with us?

LOFL. its actually making my afternoon better arguing with this knucle head!

 

[WNMECH]

LOFL. its actually making my afternoon better arguing with this knucle head!

XNUT likes to argue here but today he sounds different.

He may be just playing stupid or might be having a senior moment.

 

[xUT]

ok ok youre special needs, im sorry here is the exact quote "just to clarify, SWA MX has no A/B scale. there is one scale 0 years to top out." you big dummy, show me how the hell we have an a/b scale? everyone here wants you to tell us. The way we see an a/b scale is tow groups of mechanics, with two seperate scales , with different top outs. WTF? are you really that stupid?

I expected that 'you boys' would not admit you were wrong and gang up on me.
Guess what, Bite Me!
Again you state "there is one scale 0 years to top out" but your CBA says different.
Which is correct?
I asked you to PM me with your ALR info, but you don't have the guts to do it.
That's cool, as I'll do it myself.
B) xUT

 

[SWA.TECH]

XNUT likes to argue here but today he sounds different.

He may be just playing stupid or might be having a senior moment.

I am laughing pretty hard, the messed up thing is I really do fell bad for the guy. I have friends that were laid off from UAL, and that sucks.

 

[SWA.TECH]

I expected that 'you boys' would not admit you were wrong and gang up on me.
Guess what, Bite Me!
Again you state "there is one scale 0 years to top out" but your CBA says different.
Which is correct?
I asked you to PM me with your ALR info, but you don't have the guts to do it.
That's cool, as I'll do it myself.
B) xUT

Xnut, it has nothing to do with "guts" it has to do with the fact that I respect and am friends with my ALR , and there is no way I would refer a whacko like you to waste his time , he is busy enough doing his job. And as far as doing it yourself, knock yourself out!

 

[SWA.TECH]

Its almost reminiscent of the mechanic forum when we would troll and spool up other swa guys! but I think this guy might be legit.

 

[xUT]

He said we have just one wage progression scale starting at zero years up until you top out.

That is fact and we have always had only one wage progression scale.

Only an A Scale.

Show me where I said that.

 

[SWA.TECH]

Show me where I said that.

Umm he meant me im pretty sure numb skull......

 

[WNMECH]

Umm he meant me im pretty sure numb skull......

Yes, I meant you.

 

[SWA.TECH]

Yes, I meant you.

I know, he was just so fired up.... Im his friend now. My banter with him is actually quite theraputic to me, I feel pretty bad that it upsets him and chafes his ass and what not. I dont intend to. Anyway have a good one.

 

[WNMECH]

Its almost reminiscent of the mechanic forum when we would troll and spool up other swa guys! but I think this guy might be legit.

Yes, I remember those days on the old "the mechanic" forum.

We were always accused of destroying all the other airlines because SWA outsourced too much work for their companies to compete.

Little did they know that it was their unfunded pensions that were their downfall.

 

[WNMECH]

I'm not one to spread rumors, but there is a disturbing rumor that's getting stronger and stronger out there about the arbitrator that was selected for the dispatchers. I've been hearing this all week but haven't posted anything for the lack of conformation. Supposibly, the AT dispatchers are appealing the arbitrated decision for conflict of interest. The rumor spreading around is that the selected arbitrator was, in some way, shape or form, once a member of the SWA board of directors or is a significant share holder. He supposedly served on the board for SWA and AA at some point in his life. Like I said, I have not seen factual information to sustain the accusation, simply spreading it forward because the rumor is starting to snow ball and pick up strength and speed...

I personally wanted to leave the dispatchers situation alone but since it's being brought up so thoroughly, I thought I might give the AT side of information being spread. If anyone knows more, please feel free to add on and let me know whether this information is accurate or not.

I would like to know more about this if it is true.
Who can you appeal a binding arbitration to after you don't like the ruling except a federal court?
Both sides are TWU so are they are sueing themselves?
Both sides had the opportunity to strike arbitrators they didn't like before the case was heard.

I Googled the arbitrators full name and read his resume, no smoking gun there.

This may just be sour grapes and BS, but if there is anything to it then I would like to hear it.

And it should be posted in one of the threads on that decision.

 

[SWA.TECH]

I would like to know more about this if it is true.
Who can you appeal a binding arbitration to after you don't like the ruling except a federal court?
Both sides are TWU so are they are sueing themselves?
Both sides had the opportunity to strike arbitrators they didn't like before the case was heard.

I Googled the arbitrators full name and read his resume, no smoking gun there.

This may just be sour grapes and BS, but if there is anything to it then I would like to hear it.

And it should be posted in one of the threads on that decision.

my sentiments exactly, which is why I called BS on him calling it "information" more like dis-information , or propaganda... avtech is really reaching. Like the saying goes , the truth hurts.

 

[WNMECH]

my sentiments exactly, which is why I called BS on him calling it "information" more like dis-information , or propaganda... avtech is really reaching. Like the saying goes , the truth hurts.

I found listed on the arbitrators resume that one of the permanent panels he is assigned to is that of southwest airlines/ TWU .

How long has he been on this panel?

so why would they only find a conflict of intrest now if he has been a long time arbitrator for them?

And if he had this conflict, then has he ruled against the TWU before?

And if he has, then why didn't the TWU strike him from the panel before?

Then the main question: even if he was in the pocket of SWA, how does that effect and arbitration between TWU 550 and TWU 540 when SWA is not even a party in it?

This guy arbitrates lots of cases for lots of people and groups. His resume says he is paid $900 a day. Does anybody think a stupid SLI between two TWU groups is going to be the one he throws?

I think I am leaning more to BS than anything else.

Lots of questions here that don't add up.

 

[WNMECH]

Now that I think about it, maybe the fact that the arbitrator is on a permanent panel that may have decided disputes between SWA and TWU 550, that might be what they are trying to call a conflict of intrest?

Still at $900 a day, I think he can stay neutral.