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Are you done embarrassing yourself xNUT?
You could apologize to SWAMT for calling him a liar, but I doubt you have the class.
An arbitrator has ruled that a 4 year bump for SWA employees is fair and is required to prevent a windfall to Airtran employees.
We have been saying this all along while you and other know-it-all outsiders have been claiming we were wrong, dirty, mean, destroying our craft and a whole lot of other things.
Keep your nose out of our business, you clearly are not as smart as you think.
Read the decision, the arguments sound as if we wrote them ourselves.
And the final decision was in SWA employees favor.
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In fact, I do know xUT. Although by now you know, that the dispatchers have in "FACT" recieved thier ruling from the arbitrator. They recieved a 4 year boost for the SWA dispatchers. And yes you did miss the ruling. I have also recieved information that the baggage handlers, or rather rampers, are also going to recieve a boost in seniority. The amount has not been determained as of yet. However, my sources tell me that it will be 2.5 to 3 yr boost. Now we have 2 groups,for the SWA employees side that went thru arbitration that will recieve "boost" in seniority. Watch and learn my friend, I have more info than anyone out here in cyberland...
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I told that #### what was going to happend. Now watch what happends to the ramp employees when thier ruling comes down. More than likely it will be 3 yrs for the rampers, give or take 1 yr either way, but no more, and no less. Nobody ever believes what we post, however, we are so much more connected to the information, as employees, than any other airline out there. Remember guys, I told you that the money part was going to get pulled off the tabl,e as well as the retro. When is everyone going to hear us. You all just keep thinking we are all out here posting BS and all our info will come to fruitrision...
xUT,
The arbitrator has rulled on the dispatchers. SWA dispatchers will in "FACT" recieve a boost of 4 yrs to their seniority. The arbitrator saw that the AT dispatchers were recieving a wind fall of economics, and the SWA dispatchers were recieving nothing as far as economics. Therefore, the arbitrator desided to give the "seniority enhancement" of 4 years to the SWA dispatchers. Any questions???
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I liked the one liner below the decision page, Agree with local 550, or something along those lines...
I believe a congratulations are in order for the AT and SWA dispatchers. The SLI is done, now it's time to move on to the TA. So, instead of twisting and over analyzing this any further, lets let them get their TA together and finish their transition.
I believe a congratulations are in order for the AT and SWA dispatchers. The SLI is done, now it's time to move on to the TA. So, instead of twisting and over analyzing this any further, lets let them get their TA together and finish their transition.
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On a more "POSSITIVE" note: I was told tonight that the SWA/AT nego cmtes have come to an agreement on SLI. The basic break down is as follows. 4 year boost for the SWA mechanics. Head protections for BWI and MCO. No fences (yea) and no more LOA. And the SLI and the Transitional agreements will be voted on as one.
Time table for ratification process is as follows: Between now and May 21st the nego cmte will travel around the system to give the road show presentation of the SLI, Transitional agreement, 401K increase, Denver maint., as well as answer any questions that the members may have. I know this time frame is large but I have no exact dates as of yet. May 21st will be the start of the voting and June 21st both sides will announce the results.
Time table for ratification process is as follows: Between now and May 21st the nego cmte will travel around the system to give the road show presentation of the SLI, Transitional agreement, 401K increase, Denver maint., as well as answer any questions that the members may have. I know this time frame is large but I have no exact dates as of yet. May 21st will be the start of the voting and June 21st both sides will announce the results.
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HAHA! The position YOU'VE held!! That's funny coming from one that has multiple time stated that he doesn't care what happens to the AT mechanics and is more recently wanting them to hit the street!! Between you and SWA.TECH, Squidly and Buscador... The only position you've shown on here was the one out for blood and not for a fair integration.. if this would've been posted by anyone else, like SWAMT or SWADL, then i would've believed it, but coming from you, I find it funny!!
Thanks for making me laugh this morning!!! LOFL
This is the exact position I have held since day one.
I'm fact when I read the SWA dispatchers case, I found some of the exact same arguments and phrases I have used here.
Not bad for just a hanger lawyer eh avtech ?
What are you trying to say Lineguy, that after all of this bickering and demanding from all those people who deserved Huge payraises and DOH that an outside source could see through the BS, no way thats possible. You mean SWA wasnt the big bad wolf after all and all the screams and threats of Arbitration backfired... no way say it isnt so...how could that be???
I will be having a drink or two to the fact, SANITY STILL EXISTS
HAHA! The position YOU'VE held!! That's funny coming from one that has multiple time stated that he doesn't care what happens to the AT mechanics and is more recently wanting them to hit the street!! Between you and SWA.TECH, Squidly and Buscador... The only position you've shown on here was the one out for blood and not for a fair integration.. if this would've been posted by anyone else, like SWAMT or SWADL, then i would've believed it, but coming from you, I find it funny!!
Thanks for making me laugh this morning!!! LOFL
Alright I made your TOP 4 list, whoohooo I am honored,, did you see that and Arbitrator agreed to what all 4 of us have been saying,,, STop taking and be fair, even an independant person saw the insanity and unfairness of what AT was getting,, shocking huh
That has just got to kill the AT employees,, FA's got away with one,, now the precedent is there AVtech, thats whats funny. Sign now or forever cry quietly..
Be careful not to fall down while you are laughing we would hate to hear more excuses for you being a poor Victim
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Yes it is nice to see. Puts a huge crator in everybody's comments that we have been unfair, tuff, dirty and mean. I bet the AT guys have changed thier tune about arbitration now. All I have to say is, if this gets voted down this time, the membership shoud tell nego cmte and National to go into arbitration with 6-8 years. We have more that were giving up than any other group with the LOA. Plus all the pay raises for the AT mechanics is the largest of any group except for maybe the pilots. Just a thought seeing how the arbitrators are ruling.
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swamt, on 23 April 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:
Yes they do. We were told they will also look at what the other groups recieved in thier non-arbitrated agreements who have an agreement by voting them in, which means the pilots group and the F/A's. I would be willing to bet the arbitrators were aware of our current offer coming out soon of 4 yrs. And if they were not, I know the dispatchers unions enlightened them on it. At least the first offer of 4 and 70% was talked about.
Fact is, "YOU DO NOT KNOW"!, dispatchers arbitration has not been decided yet you 'claim' it has. It may very will be as you 'claim' but without an official ruling, you are speculating (at best).
I may have missed the ruling, and if so, please provide a link.
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xUT
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Do you believe me now xUT?
Rampers will get a boost as well. Just don't know the number yet.
I wasn't speculating.
No you didn't miss the ruling.
And you were provided a link, so now what do you think of that ruling?
Yes they do. We were told they will also look at what the other groups recieved in thier non-arbitrated agreements who have an agreement by voting them in, which means the pilots group and the F/A's. I would be willing to bet the arbitrators were aware of our current offer coming out soon of 4 yrs. And if they were not, I know the dispatchers unions enlightened them on it. At least the first offer of 4 and 70% was talked about.
Fact is, "YOU DO NOT KNOW"!, dispatchers arbitration has not been decided yet you 'claim' it has. It may very will be as you 'claim' but without an official ruling, you are speculating (at best).
I may have missed the ruling, and if so, please provide a link.
Regards,
xUT
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Do you believe me now xUT?
Rampers will get a boost as well. Just don't know the number yet.
I wasn't speculating.
No you didn't miss the ruling.
And you were provided a link, so now what do you think of that ruling?
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I now feel that I have to post this so not to be called a lier by xUT. Below is the company's statement on the TA'd SLI:Southwest and AirTran Aircraft Mechanics Reach Tentative Seniority Integration AgreementBlog By: EmployeeNews on Apr 24, 2012 at 9:00am
Southwest Airlines is pleased to announce that Aircraft Mechanics from Southwest, represented by the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA), and AirTran, represented by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) have reached a new tentative seniority integration agreement. If ratified, this proposal would integrate the two groups' seniority lists.
"I'm grateful for the many hours those on the Negotiating Teams dedicated to this effort," said Jim Sokol, Southwest Vice President Maintenance Operations. "Both sides learned a lot from the first round of talks, and I’m proud that we were able to reach a negotiated agreement outside of arbitration and that both sides will have a voice in their future here at Southwest."
Members of both AMFA and IBT will now have the opportunity to review and ratify this proposed agreement within the next 45 days. AMFA represents approximately 1,600 Southwest Aircraft Mechanics, and the IBT represents more than 400 AirTran Aircraft Mechanics.
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Southwest Airlines is pleased to announce that Aircraft Mechanics from Southwest, represented by the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA), and AirTran, represented by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) have reached a new tentative seniority integration agreement. If ratified, this proposal would integrate the two groups' seniority lists.
"I'm grateful for the many hours those on the Negotiating Teams dedicated to this effort," said Jim Sokol, Southwest Vice President Maintenance Operations. "Both sides learned a lot from the first round of talks, and I’m proud that we were able to reach a negotiated agreement outside of arbitration and that both sides will have a voice in their future here at Southwest."
Members of both AMFA and IBT will now have the opportunity to review and ratify this proposed agreement within the next 45 days. AMFA represents approximately 1,600 Southwest Aircraft Mechanics, and the IBT represents more than 400 AirTran Aircraft Mechanics.
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