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I really wanted to stay out of this, but it's killin me. You guys (I assume from PHX) sound pathetic. You all sound like your back in high school. Who gives a flying crap if they came into the brake room and took over a couple of chairs and or recliners to take a nap. They were in fact invited to come to the break room. I would have done the same thing. If they were in somebody's place, grow some balls, and ask them to relocate themselves, don't let it go then post on here how ungreatfull it was or how out of line they were. My god you guys look like little children fighting over a toy or something. If the AT guys came to Dallas and needed to use any of our facilities after working a downline, I would more than welcome them, use whatever they wanted to use, grab some grub, relax and more than anything, "make them feel welcome" I know I don't know the entire story, but, if it happened as I have read here, then this is just PATHETIC.
AvTech was right. Don't judge the entire group of the AT guys by what took place in PHX. If they did in fact act out of line. That would be like AT guys judging all of us at SWA for Buscadors postings (LOL). I think you get my point there. Please everyone, stay professional, polite, and welcoming of the AT mechanics coming to our company. We will in fact have to all work together. We SWA mechanics worked hard to get rid of the fences, restrictions, and LOA's out of the integration agreement, to in fact, stop the segegration of the 2 groups, the division of the mechanics. Don't start this division crap just because the AT guys had a downline to a SWA station. I'm sure I will get slammed for this, but I wanted to speak my mind on this issue. I am tired of hearing "us and them" It's a done deal boys and girls, we will be ONE, it's time to accept it, and move on. Good god, would the IBT please allow the AT mechanics vote on the current offer, and let the process move on the way it needs to move on. Sorry for rambling on. But pls can we get this done?? And, STOP the division postings!
 
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I really wanted to stay out of this, but it's killin me. You guys (I assume from PHX) sound pathetic. You all sound like your back in high school. Who gives a flying crap if they came into the brake room and took over a couple of chairs and or recliners to take a nap. They were in fact invited to come to the break room. I would have done the same thing. If they were in somebody's place, grow some balls, and ask them to relocate themselves, don't let it go then post on here how ungreatfull it was or how out of line they were. My god you guys look like little children fighting over a toy or something. If the AT guys came to Dallas and needed to use any of our facilities after working a downline, I would more than welcome them, use whatever they wanted to use, grab some grub, relax and more than anything, "make them feel welcome" I know I don't know the entire story, but, if it happened as I have read here, then this is just PATHETIC.
AvTech was right. Don't judge the entire group of the AT guys by what took place in PHX. If they did in fact act out of line. That would be like AT guys judging all of us at SWA for Buscadors postings (LOL). I think you get my point there. Please everyone, stay professional, polite, and welcoming of the AT mechanics coming to our company. We will in fact have to all work together. We SWA mechanics worked hard to get rid of the fences, restrictions, and LOA's out of the integration agreement, to in fact, stop the segegration of the 2 groups, the division of the mechanics. Don't start this division crap just because the AT guys had a downline to a SWA station. I'm sure I will get slammed for this, but I wanted to speak my mind on this issue. I am tired of hearing "us and them" It's a done deal boys and girls, we will be ONE, it's time to accept it, and move on. Good god, would the IBT please allow the AT mechanics vote on the current offer, and let the process move on the way it needs to move on. Sorry for rambling on. But pls can we get this done?? And, STOP the division postings!
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Get over it. This is an internet forum. People are gonna say what they want to say.
 
SOC is here, GK was saying 4 years for 717 phase out.... transition of 3 A/C a month to SWA configuration...... DO THE MATH. IBT doesnt give a rats ass about AT or SWA , and has a vendetta against AMFA and SWA techs. People better wake up.
 
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SOC is here, GK was saying 4 years for 717 phase out.... transition of 3 A/C a month to SWA configuration...... DO THE MATH. IBT doesnt give a rats ass about AT or SWA , and has a vendetta against AMFA and SWA techs. People better wake up.
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I thought I'd already did the math... Like, 40 posts ago.. Did you not see it?? The AT A/C's are actually scheduled for 55 day conversions and estimated 45 day, and there are only 2 lines running in PAE.. That's 4 A/C in 3 months, not 3 A/C per month. Like I said, no fear on the conversion end of things, and to the AT guys out there, don't fall for this scare tactic, all AT airplanes CAN'T be converted because there is no international reservation system at SWA and SWA doesn't pay for planes and not use them, that's just another scare tactic... No airline can make money on airplanes that don't fly and regardless of what anyone tells you, the 717's are profitable and less MX heavy than the 737-300/500's...

Don't let any of this get to you guys, we'll be just fine one way or another.

Happy SOC day!! lol
 
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I thought I'd already did the math... Like, 40 posts ago.. Did you not see it?? The AT A/C's are actually scheduled for 55 day conversions and estimated 45 day, and there are only 2 lines running in PAE.. That's 4 A/C in 3 months, not 3 A/C per month. Like I said, no fear on the conversion end of things, and to the AT guys out there, don't fall for this scare tactic, all AT airplanes CAN'T be converted because there is no international reservation system at SWA and SWA doesn't pay for planes and not use them, that's just another scare tactic... No airline can make money on airplanes that don't fly and regardless of what anyone tells you, the 717's are profitable and less MX heavy than the 737-300/500's...

Don't let any of this get to you guys, we'll be just fine one way or another.

Happy SOC day!! lol
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Does anybody really take you seriously?
 
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I thought I'd already did the math... Like, 40 posts ago.. Did you not see it?? The AT A/C's are actually scheduled for 55 day conversions and estimated 45 day, and there are only 2 lines running in PAE.. That's 4 A/C in 3 months, not 3 A/C per month. Like I said, no fear on the conversion end of things, and to the AT guys out there, don't fall for this scare tactic, all AT airplanes CAN'T be converted because there is no international reservation system at SWA and SWA doesn't pay for planes and not use them, that's just another scare tactic... No airline can make money on airplanes that don't fly and regardless of what anyone tells you, the 717's are profitable and less MX heavy than the 737-300/500's...

Don't let any of this get to you guys, we'll be just fine one way or another.

Happy SOC day!! lol
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You are a funny guy, always remember and never forget the IBT loves you! Do you remeber when they used to hug you from the front? or was that to long ago? As far as the PAE schedule im very confident that a man in your position is afforded all of the latest SWA opperational information. You sir are a joke.
 
I don't know exact conversion of the planes but upper management in Dallas was just telling us that they will be converting 2- 3 planes a month real soon. And we do have an international reservation system, it's the same one you use at AT SWA owns it. We are also being told that SWA planes will be flying international real soon as in a few months. And just so you are aware AVTech04 I'm not trying to be a scare monger I'm just posting what I've been told here in Never Never land. And happy SOC to everyone involved.
 
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I thought I'd already did the math... Like, 40 posts ago.. Did you not see it?? The AT A/C's are actually scheduled for 55 day conversions and estimated 45 day, and there are only 2 lines running in PAE.. That's 4 A/C in 3 months, not 3 A/C per month. Like I said, no fear on the conversion end of things, and to the AT guys out there, don't fall for this scare tactic, all AT airplanes CAN'T be converted because there is no international reservation system at SWA and SWA doesn't pay for planes and not use them, that's just another scare tactic... No airline can make money on airplanes that don't fly and regardless of what anyone tells you, the 717's are profitable and less MX heavy than the 737-300/500's...

Don't let any of this get to you guys, we'll be just fine one way or another.

Happy SOC day!! lol
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Remember; we've been telling you guys about certain promices the company makes to you all. They always promice, promice and promice, then run into brick walls when they try to deliver. Look at the DFW guys, 4 line of maint, Denver maint, 401K match ect...
I just read this morning an article that said the 2 lines running in Seattle will soon become 4, and another statement about getting 3-4 a/c done per month. They are also looking at contracting with another FBO to increase the conversions. The article was off of yahoo news I believe. AvTech, the guys are not posting this stuff as a scare tactic, they are posting all info that can and will happen as we hear it because we know you all are being told differently by the ibt/teamsters and even some info comming from the company, matter fact read any and all news releases with GK being quoted and you will see. In a way I still wish the ibt does abandon you guys and turn you guys over to AMFA's problem (as they say)-you guys would be so informed it will overwhelm you. Remember this: if the ibt decertify's you guys are not automatically all of the sudden AMFA-you guys have to be on our senority list first. However AMFA would still help represent you guys to get thru the integration part of it. Again the guys are not fear mungering, just explaining how our contract reads as far as maint. on the a/c.
 
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I thought I'd already did the math... Like, 40 posts ago.. Did you not see it?? The AT A/C's are actually scheduled for 55 day conversions and estimated 45 day, and there are only 2 lines running in PAE.. That's 4 A/C in 3 months, not 3 A/C per month. Like I said, no fear on the conversion end of things, and to the AT guys out there, don't fall for this scare tactic, all AT airplanes CAN'T be converted because there is no international reservation system at SWA and SWA doesn't pay for planes and not use them, that's just another scare tactic... No airline can make money on airplanes that don't fly and regardless of what anyone tells you, the 717's are profitable and less MX heavy than the 737-300/500's...

Don't let any of this get to you guys, we'll be just fine one way or another.

Happy SOC day!! lol
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i agree with you, but our management at southwest is now so messed up we park airplanes we can't fly frequently...i refer you to the new seat mod fiasco, and now the two fuel wiring aircraft that have been parked...i can't say it enough...save your money boys and girls....so says the 25+ year line mechanic with the first name of paul.
 
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You are a funny guy, always remember and never forget the IBT loves you! Do you remeber when they used to hug you from the front? or was that to long ago? As far as the PAE schedule im very confident that a man in your position is afforded all of the latest SWA opperational information. You sir are a joke.
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Your correct. I believe the conversion time frame is posted on SWA Life.. For all to see. New articles came out today expressing speeding up the conversions. Seattle will goto 4 lines here shortly...

Now that we have SOC, any predictions on what the ibt will do???
 
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Your correct. I believe the conversion time frame is posted on SWA Life.. For all to see. New articles came out today expressing speeding up the conversions. Seattle will goto 4 lines here shortly...

Now that we have SOC, any predictions on what the ibt will do???
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seeing as how we used to be ibt, and we know they only do what is best for themselves (union officials), then i don't see any reasonable expectation of change from them in doing what is best for their membership.
 
AvTech04 said:
I thought I'd already did the math... Like, 40 posts ago.. Did you not see it?? The AT A/C's are actually scheduled for 55 day conversions and estimated 45 day, and there are only 2 lines running in PAE.. That's 4 A/C in 3 months, not 3 A/C per month. Like I said, no fear on the conversion end of things, and to the AT guys out there, don't fall for this scare tactic, all AT airplanes CAN'T be converted because there is no international reservation system at SWA and SWA doesn't pay for planes and not use them, that's just another scare tactic... No airline can make money on airplanes that don't fly and regardless of what anyone tells you, the 717's are profitable and less MX heavy than the 737-300/500's...

Don't let any of this get to you guys, we'll be just fine one way or another.

Happy SOC day!! lol
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The new numbers are between 2-4 a month and brian hirshman said 2 years. Please don't take this as fear mongering, it has nothing to do with MX. Its all about getting the pilots and f/a's completely merged and getting all ticket/gates under our name. Trust me when I say management will not speed up or slow down any process for the mechanics, they will do whatever they want to do. They sorry fact is swa mechanics currently have the work along with adding A/T's planes and getting new 800's each month. A/T's mechanics clock is now ticking down to the point when they have nothing to work on
 
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