IBT No Show Forum

[swamt]

Company was notified by the IBT that they would not be attending the meeting on Feb 23. By IBT I mean the International Teamsters, attorney, airline division reps. Only the ATL local reps will attend and are only staying for a couple of hours and flying back same day. Arbitration then decertification of IBT, as the IBT has said all along. If the decertification happens before arbitration we may have a small window to settle with our newly acquired AMFA brothers before the hearing. Although, I was also told that the Company may file for arbitration which at this point sounds like they have a right to.

Typical IBT representation!

 

[grmach1]

Enough with the Jack stuff. He is not Coonrod.

yeah right

 

[swaboeingonly]

I just hope we don't use any of the lame arguments I am reading on this blog in arbitration. Also I hope you don't think we should go after the AT seniority as agressively once they become AMFA. If they become AMFA before arbitration it should be straight DOH no fences.

This is the reason NOBODY likes you in that position Jack! You're a company man and nothing more! I will NEVER agree to DOH. I can't wait until you are replaced, I'm tired of hearing you talk one way to my face and another everywhere else. Be a man and stand for something...besides yourself and self interests.

 

[MadMan337]

You are still talking about abitration.
I know of several options to us that can delay the start of that process.
yes I am aware of the 20 day start to arb and the 90 day ruling process but I thinik we have a case of company interferance in the SLI negotiating process and would like to see an injunction to delay.
We have other options that I won't discuss on open forums but are available.
I have been paying dues long enough and expect that money to fight for our senority on ALL fronts.
If you are too squeemish for the task, then resign and get out of the way.
I sugest to you that if this is voted down then lick your wounds grow a spine and get back to fighting for the AMFA membership.
Your posts show your are now hoping for a negative outcome so you can say "I told you so".

Your first option isn't viable. The Company has not done anything that they didn't have a legal right to do in the SLI process. The SLI is a tripartite process that includes AMFA, IBT, and SWA. The company became directly involved only after talks broke down.

I am not hoping for a negative outcome because it affects me also. I am actually hoping I am wrong about all of this.

 

[swaboeingonly]

Enough with the Jack stuff. He is not Coonrod.

Could have fooled me.

Talk like Jack, walk like Jack, lie like Jack, write like Jack.... Must be Jack!

 

[swaboeingonly]

I'll take that as a YES to my question, yellow dog.

Seems to me YOU'RE the yellow dog Jack since all you want to do is step on SWA/AMFA to get to AT and your reward at the end. No WAIT, that's a snake! SORRY

 

[MadMan337]

This is the reason NOBODY likes you in that position Jack! You're a company man and nothing more! I will NEVER agree to DOH. I can't wait until you are replaced, I'm tired of hearing you talk one way to my face and another everywhere else. Be a man and stand for something...besides yourself and self interests.

I'm not Jack, management, or Rep. I'm just one vote. By the way, saying I would agree with a DOH SLI does not make me a Company man, in fact, it makes me more of a Union Man than you.

 

[lineguy]

Enough with the Jack stuff. He is not Coonrod.

He is coonrod until proven otherwise.

 

[MadMan337]

He is coonrod until proven otherwise.

We may have at least found something we all agree on. Jack does need to be voted out. I will be endorsing Mike Nelson for Region II.

 

[swaboeingonly]

I'm not Jack, management, or Rep. I'm just one vote. By the way, saying I would agree with a DOH SLI does not make me a Company man, in fact, it makes me more of a Union Man than you.

You call that a union man? Stepping and stabbing those YOU vote with, stand with and represent? AT is union but YOU are supposed to stand with YOUR union FIRST AND FORMOST! Union man...huh.

 

[MadMan337]

You call that a union man? Stepping and stabbing those YOU vote with, stand with and represent? AT is union but YOU are supposed to stand with YOUR union FIRST AND FORMOST! Union man...huh.

You are confusing company loyalty with being a blue collar, pro union, organized labor supporter. I guess that makes YOU the Company man.

 

[swaboeingonly]

You are confusing company loyalty with being a blue collar, pro union, organized labor supporter. I guess that makes YOU the Company man.

Whatever, get off the juice.

 

[WNMECH]

Your first option isn't viable. The Company has not done anything that they didn't have a legal right to do in the SLI process. The SLI is a tripartite process that includes AMFA, IBT, and SWA. The company became directly involved only after talks broke down.

I am not hoping for a negative outcome because it affects me also. I am actually hoping I am wrong about all of this.

I did not say we would win in court. I said we have a case and a judges injunction wiuld DELAY THE START of the arb process until we had our day in court on a company interferance claim.
ALL options should be on the table.
We have others that should not be discussed here.
Did you not hear anything from members at all the road shows you went on?
The membership spoke loud and clear, fight for our seniority or get out of the way.

 

[WNMECH]

Your first option isn't viable. The Company has not done anything that they didn't have a legal right to do in the SLI process. The SLI is a tripartite process that includes AMFA, IBT, and SWA. The company became directly involved only after talks broke down.

I am not hoping for a negative outcome because it affects me also. I am actually hoping I am wrong about all of this.

Also besides what you say, I saw what was arguably company interferance on the shop floor by Sokal and Miller.

 

[MadMan337]

I did not say we would win in court. I said we have a case and a judges injunction wiuld DELAY THE START of the arb process until we had our day in court on a company interferance claim.
ALL options should be on the table.
We have others that should not be discussed here.
Did you not hear anything from members at all the road shows you went on?
The membership spoke loud and clear, fight for our seniority or get out of the way.

That claim would never be accepted by a federal court much less receive an injunction from a judge. Again, I am not Coonrod, management or a rep. I am only one vote. Sounds like you should run for a Rep position. You could have brought all your ideas to the table and had this thing wrapped up in a nice neat package.