Although their actions were ill-advised and counter productive to the company cause, it was not interference, it is a tripartite process in which the company has a right to be involved. Especially when the SLI gets voted down, that shows their actions had no adverse affect in the first place.
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MadMan,
Where did you get this info that the IBT contacted the company and said that they were not showing for the meeting set on the 23rd? And, as you say they will now decertify? Who told you this? Seems to me there would be a lot of others posting the same thing, if this was true.
$400/hr to hear him laugh at the idea would not be a responsible use of my union dues.
Guys, I don't think this is Coonrod. But, don,t know for sure.
Shouldn't take more than 5 min.
I'll chip in the $33.
LEC member told me. Only the BA from ATL and the ATL Local Pres may show up so far, not sure if they have any authority to make proposal or accept a proposal. From what I was told when they disbanded the AT Comm only the international IBT reps have any authority to make a deal and they aren't coming. The IBT has been saying they will decertify ever since the infamous 12 yrs proposal. They have repeated it no less than 3 times. The IBT reps have so far done everything they said they would. No one is posting about it because no one has actually spoke with their reps and asked the questions and the reps are not on this blog posting.
Check your PMs
If or when we go to arbitration, I am very confident that AMFA and AMFA legal are prepared to present an excellent case that hopefully will be in the SWA mechanics favor. If we receive an undesirable ruling from the arbitrator it will not be because AMFA put forth a half effort. They have been preparing for a hard fight for months. I trust and respect the effort our SLI committee has put into and continues to put into representing our Members interests. They will fight hard for exactly what everyone wants even when the expectations may not be achievable, because that is what the membership has told them to do. Understand that no matter the final outcome of this SLI the AMFA Committee fought their asses off for every AMFA Mechanic at SWA.
Tell your Reps what you expect and tell them often. Email them through the links on the Local's website. Call them if they are not available when you are at work. Sign up as an observer. Demand more union meetings. GO TO YOUR UNION MEETINGS.
I am getting off this blog now and will return sometime after the 23rd.
Tell your Reps what you expect and tell them often. Email them through the links on the Local's website. Call them if they are not available when you are at work. Sign up as an observer. Demand more union meetings. GO TO YOUR UNION MEETINGS.
I am getting off this blog now and will return sometime after the 23rd.
K. Thx.
A little surprised by the IBT running scared, but definitely not shocked. Hate to see the AT guys getting abandoned by the IBT. Who knows, I bet AMFA will get them through it if it is in fact turned over to AMFA. At least they will know that AMFA will not abandon them. Hell, you all watch, AMFA could in fact get them a better deal. Now that would send a message to the aviation world about the teamsters. This will get interesting, never before have I ever seen a union just abandon a work group and walk away. How pathetic. Guess we will see how this goes next week.
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That last sentence is the most intelligent thing I have ever read on this forum.
MadMan, Cmon. Your confident that AMFA is prepared? They are more than prepared. They have not been preparing for this for months, they have been preparing for this exact senerio since the very begining. Like you said, the teamsters have been threatening to do this from the very begining. And, if you were at some of the meetings, and at the side bars after the meetings, then you would know for a fact that they are very prepared. Trust me, they were expecting this move from the IBT, they are more than prepared. If they file for arbitration they have to represent them. They can't file for arbitration saying they are the represented union for the AT guys then walk away and not represent them. If they decertify prior to arbitration, then the AT mechanics are no longer represented. And "NO" AMFA does not have to represent them if the IBT decertifies prior to arbitration, why because they are not represented, and, they won't be represented by AMFA until this integration is done and overwith. I want everyone to stop the scare tactics out here. (not you personally MadMan) But one of them is going around that we will run out of money because AMFA would be forced to represent the AT guys if the teamsters decertified. If they decertify and walk away from all this, then the AT guys become unrepresented. And they do not become AMFA until they are on the senority list. This is only a small piece of the pie that WNMECH is talking about. Think about it guys, let the IBT walk away. It will be better for the entire industry, not only the AT guys... Good luck to all. This will in fact get very, very interesting! And there are alot of outsiders watching diligently. On another note, I too agree with the HOU mechanic, our dues must be used to protect our senority at whatever cost. That's what they are there for. Nuff said, carry on gentlemen, be all you can be...
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To be honest, the ibt walked away from us since the announcement was made when Southwest was buying Airtran. That's my opinion. Also it's been very quiet here from ibt, teamsters or whoever it is reprensting us.
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This right here says it all. We both feel the same way. We pay our dues, ultimately, for our seniority. Doesn't matter what company or what union, we ALL pay for the same thing. But soon we'll be paying dues to AMFA, one way or another. So where do you draw the line?? We are all, SWA mechs and AT mechs, dues paying members and we all deserve the best for our money.
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