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iam twu alliance vote
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Maybe just maybe the TWU is to blame for the anti union talk. After all we are paying union dues
For the worst contract, I don't believe that a union saved any OH work. If
AA wanted to do away with TUL, it would have, just like it did with AFW AND MCI.
I think we can all agree that AA does what it wants with the TWU, so why should
I finance a union infrastructure that does nothing for me. Jet Blue, Delta and fedex
are all non union that makes more then us. If we did do away with a union why
wouldn't AA treat us right to keep out a real union.
For the worst contract, I don't believe that a union saved any OH work. If
AA wanted to do away with TUL, it would have, just like it did with AFW AND MCI.
I think we can all agree that AA does what it wants with the TWU, so why should
I finance a union infrastructure that does nothing for me. Jet Blue, Delta and fedex
are all non union that makes more then us. If we did do away with a union why
wouldn't AA treat us right to keep out a real union.
TRAVIS
Veteran
Why! History Lesson..bigjets said:
Look at who is running AA now.( Parker and the Boys.)
Back in the AWA days before the merger with US Air and Before AWA voted in the IBT. The Company (AWA) went to all the work groups and said: You don't need to vote in a union WE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU...
This was at the time we were voting in our first ever AMT Union at AWA and it did not make it in. The IBT was voted down by only a few votes.
And So The Company Did Take Care Of Us! They shut down all C-Checks and Back Shops and Farmed Out all the work and FIRED 500 AMT's and most of the Related Workers who voted down the IBT the first time they tried to get in at AWA.
We Call This BLACK FRIDAY AT AWA..P.S. This was 2 weeks before Christmas with No Notice. This just shows what kind of Christmas spirit the company has for its employees!
After that the AMT's who were still here overwhelmingly voted in the IBT on the next vote as the Related Workers got what the Company Promised them.(They Took Care Of Them).
The IBT had to fight hard just to get B-Checks back in-house as they had Nothing to Negotiate with as it had All Been Farmed -Out.
It was like fighting with your hands tied behind your back.
Just to get our first contract we (AWA Tech's) as IBT had to WALK-OUT.
During the AWA - US Air Merger the IAM seamed to be well informed and had there game plan on the merger ready and won out over the IBT and so we ended up IAM and with their Bankrupt Contract and this time looks like the Company is in favor of the TWU as it is willing to negotiate with them instead of it's own company union again just like last time but the shoe is on the other foot it's not the IBT it's the IAM's turn and they are well aware of how the company works.
IT is no wonder the IAM is in favor of a joint union with the TWU knowing how the Company works deals with the new union on property and the TWU also knows it's members are tired of its BS and they both do not want to lose DUES.
I say NO to the Alliance and write-in IAM only for this vote and if the IAM doesn't get off there A$$ and get the job done this time we will need to put the boot to them too!
As far as the IBT and AMFA go they will need to work on a pension plan to win out over the IAM as they use it to hold over the heads of its members like a safety plug to cover for weak union member contracts IE. Pay and Benefits
This saying comes to mind: The Past Always Seems To Come Back And Haunt You. End of History Lesson.............
Have A Merry Christmas All My Union Brothers.....
TRAVIS
Veteran
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/455848/HUNDREDS-OF-EX-WORKERS-CALL-FOR-AIRLINE-BOYCOTT.html
The assault on America West Airlines grew more vitriolic Friday, with hundreds of laid-off employees and union supporters slamming the company for accepting tax breaks during its 1992 bankruptcy and then sending 500 jobs to Washington state.
"After you and your businesses bailed out America West when it was hours from closing its doors, this is how they thank you - by sending local jobs to Washington," said Ron Edwon, a mechanic with the airline for 10 years until the layoffs Dec. 2.America West announced that it would contract with Tramco, based in Everett, Wash., for much of its maintenance work.
"That company was built by our sweat and sacrifice," Edwon said. "We're madder than h--- and we're not going to take it!"
Workers from more than a dozen unions gathered in the sunshine in a parking lot across from the airline's downtown headquarters, waving signs and answering impassioned speeches with cries of "Boycott America West!"
The rally was organized by the Teamsters union.
The fired workers, about half of the airline's mechanics force, say the company targeted active unionists in the layoffs and threatened workers they would be denied salary increases if they unionized.
The company has denied the charges, saying officials keep no records of which employees were actively pro-union. The majority of mechanics don't want to unionize, a fact evidenced by last December's vote against joining, said Michael Mitchell, company spokesman.
"This isn't their fight," Mitchell said Friday of the Teamsters. "There was an election and they did not win representation. They are creating a lot of distress for these people they don't represent."
Approximately 900 America West mechanics were eligible to vote in the December 1994 election, which was to decide whether to unionize. The unionists lost by 14 votes.
Another election is slated for Jan. 26.
Joining the Teamsters as they called for a nationwide boycott of America West was Tempe Vice Mayor Dennis Cahill and a representative for Phoenix Mayor Skip Rimsza.
In a letter the protesters delivered to the airline's corporate offices, the fired workers slam America West for taking millions of dollars in tax breaks while building and then, in 1992, when the company filed for bankruptcy.
"We accepted wage cuts, then frozen wages and the promises from management that when the profits came, we would be rewarded for our loyalty," the letter reads. "But as our reward, America West coldly fired us, took away our livelihood, our health insurance, our futures."
Mitchell defended the company's decision to contract its work to a Washington firm, saying the workers are receiving a "fair severance package."
Workers who have been with the company more than six years have been offered $10,000 if they agree not to sue the company for any damages. Workers who have been with the company less than six years can have $3,000 if they make the same promises.
The assault on America West Airlines grew more vitriolic Friday, with hundreds of laid-off employees and union supporters slamming the company for accepting tax breaks during its 1992 bankruptcy and then sending 500 jobs to Washington state.
"After you and your businesses bailed out America West when it was hours from closing its doors, this is how they thank you - by sending local jobs to Washington," said Ron Edwon, a mechanic with the airline for 10 years until the layoffs Dec. 2.America West announced that it would contract with Tramco, based in Everett, Wash., for much of its maintenance work.
"That company was built by our sweat and sacrifice," Edwon said. "We're madder than h--- and we're not going to take it!"
Workers from more than a dozen unions gathered in the sunshine in a parking lot across from the airline's downtown headquarters, waving signs and answering impassioned speeches with cries of "Boycott America West!"
The rally was organized by the Teamsters union.
The fired workers, about half of the airline's mechanics force, say the company targeted active unionists in the layoffs and threatened workers they would be denied salary increases if they unionized.
The company has denied the charges, saying officials keep no records of which employees were actively pro-union. The majority of mechanics don't want to unionize, a fact evidenced by last December's vote against joining, said Michael Mitchell, company spokesman.
"This isn't their fight," Mitchell said Friday of the Teamsters. "There was an election and they did not win representation. They are creating a lot of distress for these people they don't represent."
Approximately 900 America West mechanics were eligible to vote in the December 1994 election, which was to decide whether to unionize. The unionists lost by 14 votes.
Another election is slated for Jan. 26.
Joining the Teamsters as they called for a nationwide boycott of America West was Tempe Vice Mayor Dennis Cahill and a representative for Phoenix Mayor Skip Rimsza.
In a letter the protesters delivered to the airline's corporate offices, the fired workers slam America West for taking millions of dollars in tax breaks while building and then, in 1992, when the company filed for bankruptcy.
"We accepted wage cuts, then frozen wages and the promises from management that when the profits came, we would be rewarded for our loyalty," the letter reads. "But as our reward, America West coldly fired us, took away our livelihood, our health insurance, our futures."
Mitchell defended the company's decision to contract its work to a Washington firm, saying the workers are receiving a "fair severance package."
Workers who have been with the company more than six years have been offered $10,000 if they agree not to sue the company for any damages. Workers who have been with the company less than six years can have $3,000 if they make the same promises.
comatose
Senior
Who was soliciting the IBT a few months back and now the IAM?
Sorry already been screwed by these two plus the TWU.
I will never vote for anything you solicit.
Sorry already been screwed by these two plus the TWU.
I will never vote for anything you solicit.
TRAVIS
Veteran
I say NO to the Alliance and write-in IAM only for this vote.comatose said:
I still think the IBT would do a better job than the IAM but they pulled out so its my 2nd pick.
The post was a little info. for you AA boys on the New Company Management and the way they work as some of us have had the ill pleasure of being bent over for.
Some of us still fight for what we want and some still runaround with their Head up there A$$ not knowing all the facts or even caring.
Now as far as you solicit on my vote, I vote you pull your head out.
CHEW SPIT!!!
comatose
Senior
TRAVIS said:
As long as this membership has anything to do with the TWU, IBT, or the IAM the head will remain firmly planted.
I won't solicit anything from an IBT lapdog.
TRAVIS
Veteran
http://www.unitedneg...ts/proposal.pdf
http://www.unitedneg...sal-summary.pdf
http://teamsterair.org/node/694
looks like the IBT at UAL is hard at work but we have nothing to worrier about, We have the Fighting IAM/TWU on our side.
Just typing that gave me a gag impulse.
http://www.unitedneg...sal-summary.pdf
http://teamsterair.org/node/694
looks like the IBT at UAL is hard at work but we have nothing to worrier about, We have the Fighting IAM/TWU on our side.
Just typing that gave me a gag impulse.
ThirdSeatHero
Veteran
TRAVIS said:
The ibt hard at work at UAL?
Thanks for the laugh.
That crap you posted is the COMPANY proposal and its concessionary. We're now under mediation and as of our last update were not even meeting with the company until late feb or early april 2014.
TRAVIS
Veteran
Never said it was a IBT proposal. What makes me laugh thirdseatzero is your AMFA is STILL OUT THE DOOR at UAL get over it or vote them out.ThirdSeatHero said:
You know I my be going about this the wrong way, Maybe we should VOTE in AMFA here at AA just for you and 1AA.....yep that GAG IMPULSE IS BACK....
3rd and 1AA if it makes you boys feel any better I would vote AMFA before TWU...After looking at what the TWU has done to the AMT's at AA I moved them all the way to the bottom.
1. IBT 2. IAM 3. AMFA 4.No Union 5. TWU.
IMO I don't think AMFA has the Professional Experience nor the Finical Ability to run the Worlds Largest Airlines union.
At the last Major Airline they were kicked out (UAL) and the one before that they made all the wrong moves at the wrong time and that hurt them bad (NWA) and you can try to sugar coat that total fu#k-up all you want, AMFA dropped the ball period. They should have not walked out with the scabs trained and ready to go.
If you two want to keep throwing rocks, Come on. I don't have nothing but time because I have the IAM working for me and I'am still waiting for my first Contract as a IAM member to vote on.
Hope you boy have a nice Christmas because Parker and the boys have been known to make employee's feel real special at Christmas.
See ya next YEAR.
TRAVIS
Veteran
You are one of the reasons i will not vote for AMFA. SOUTHWEST BOY.swamt said:
You have tried to ram that loser union down my throat for almost a year.
DUMB-A$$ your airline is half the problem with our class and craft as Keller bought you boys off as he farmed out his cut rate cheep seat airline.
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