IAM Stepping Up campaign

[WorldTraveler]

would you like a private email?... I'm not posting DL's internal contact information or procedures on the internet.


it's not that hard to deal, with Kevin.

EVERY company has some sort of recourse for payroll issues including for people to contact the headquarters from a remote location.

Most departments at DL have DEDICATED people/groups of people to handle payroll/ HR administrative related issues.

to say that there is no recourse to resolve payroll related issues is just flat out wrong.

 

[737823]

 


Hey, by the way, when someone at DL's paycheck gets messed up-including not getting paid at all- through no fault of their own, what internal recourse do they have?

Hint: None

 
Surely there is a payroll department they can take it up with?  Just because it isn't included in a CBA doesn't mean the employee doesn't have recourse or there are steps in place to resolve matters to their satisfaction.
 
Josh

 

[737823]

Actually he is posting misinformation once again, its lie after lie:
 

US Airways Begins To Align Cabin Service With American
 
 
 


 

 
Actually that is not entirely correct.  The combined meal windows effective September 1st will indeed be shorter than standalone AA currently has.  AA offers meals on all flights over two hours in FC (including Eagle/Envoy), and many exception markets around the 1.5-1.75 hour mark.  How does this relate to the IAM at US?  I don't doubt for a minute that this is an enhancement to the US service standards but it is outright false to suggest the pre-merger AA standard is prevailing.  
 
Josh

 

[737823]

 

What are you talking about?
 
This is the IAM's Fleet Service TA, nothing to do with the TWU.
 
And the whole language is posted with new language and the old language lined out.
 
It has been posted since the TA was agreed to that there would be meetings all over the system, all out their on DL 141's web page, and has been.

 
Take your own advice: 
 

 
 
So once again you fail at your lame attempt, its not about US, this is about DL now isnt it?

 

 
Josh

 

[737823]

how pathetic is that....   that's pretty sad
 
USAIRWAYS mgmt. took over most AA  now as far as catering goes  US does their own for the most part  and its done very accurately  Im quite sure AA will also fall in line just like the rest of the airlines do when it comes to catering

 
The funny thing is US serves meals on hardly any domestic flights yet still has catering in house at the hubs.  Of course Roabilly has a strong interest in it staying in house and went on and on about it a few days ago but hope is the AA way prevails and they turn to LSG and Gate Gourmet even at hubs.  The stuff US provides as "meals" is an absolute joke, and it would be better to have a vendor than IAM dues paying personnel.  
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

Your posting misinformation once again.
 
Roabilly is RETIRED, what happens on the property doesnt effect him anymore in regards to collective bargaining.
 
US uses LSG at most place, try again.
 
And the IAM does represent third party caterers at different locations, so try again.
 
US delivers and stocks the planes, LSG prepares only the food.

 

[robbedagain]

flights 1 hr and over boxed meals for sale  FC may have meal or snack    DL btw does not serve hardly anything on flights 1 hr or less in FC  I flew them to FL recently and was in FC   At the hubs and some cities include BWI we have our own catering   they just go to the LSG Café and pick up the meals
 
WT per the union I cannot delve more than what I have said so that I don't jepordize it.   But I will tell you this..  the way the company screwed and all it comes down to the double standard policies as I see it.  Why some folks got to keep the pay vs some others myself included yet we did exactly as we were told to do so when it came to getting recalled etc

 

[737823]

flights 1 hr and over boxed meals for sale  FC may have meal or snack    DL btw does not serve hardly anything on flights 1 hr or less in FC  I flew them to FL recently and was in FC
 
WT per the union I cannot delve more than what I have said so that I don't jepordize it.   But I will tell you this..  the way the company screwed and all it comes down to the double standard policies as I see it.  Why some folks got to keep the pay vs some others myself included yet we did exactly as we were told to do so when it came to getting recalled etc

 
US does not serve meals on one hour long flights.  DL serves meals on most flights over 900 miles in FC, although there are some exception markets such as ORD/ATL-NYC.
 
Josh

 

[Kev3188]

would you like a private email?... I'm not posting DL's internal contact information or procedures on the internet.

I'd rather have a root canal, thanks.

But fear not; you don't need to worry about posting an internal procedure, because none really exist other than "contact your leader," or "call payroll."

Those are the obvious first two steps. I had assumed they could go w/o saying in this context, but once again I've managed to over estimate you both. Sorry 'bout that...

 

it's not that hard to deal, with Kevin.

EVERY company has some sort of recourse for payroll issues including for people to contact the headquarters from a remote location.

Most departments at DL have DEDICATED people/groups of people to handle payroll/ HR administrative related issues.

to say that there is no recourse to resolve payroll related issues is just flat out wrong.

And what happens when those people aren't accountable? How 'bout when there is no timeframe they have to rectify things by?

It's easy to say "just make some calls," but reality is different.


 
 

Surely there is a payroll department they can take it up with?  Just because it isn't included in a CBA doesn't mean the employee doesn't have recourse or there are steps in place to resolve matters to their satisfaction.
 
Josh

See above.

 

[robbedagain]

just bec you call payroll or hr  does not mean theyre gonna rectify the situation etc..  but with a union filing a grievance would go a long way in rectifying it on your behalf

 

[737823]

just bec you call payroll or hr  does not mean theyre gonna rectify the situation etc..  but with a union filing a grievance would go a long way in rectifying it on your behalf

 
Does a payroll grievance also take five years (and counting)?  
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

I just have seen firsthand how destructive organized labor is to industry and our government .

 
 

Tell us more about this alleged "first hand experience."

 
 

Family business.

Josh
 

 
 
 

Go on...

Crickets

 

[robbedagain]

does your company screw up your pay from time to time?   do they give you recourse if they furlough you?

 

[WorldTraveler]

yes, robbed, every company screws up occasionally.

and they fix it too.

if people like Kev constantly view the world and everyone in it as out to screw you, then it isn't a surprise that you will be constantly disappointed because you can't trust them to help you.

Kev,
DL mgmt. has a job to do but their job IS NOT counter to your best interests.

I've been thru enough administrative issues with DL to know what they are capable of screwing up and I also know what they will fix and how quickly.

Your constant broad brush that you are a helpless victim of a bureaucracy that is out to screw you at every turn is the stuff that most employees - and I mean 99.9% - can't even begin to relate to.

 

[WorldTraveler]

hey DL employees that the IAM wants to convince they are right for you:

can you believe the ignorance in making a statement like this?

1978 is when deregulation ended.

all of those years that DL applied to the Civil Aeronautics Board for routes before 1978 and they had it all wrong.

The industry was deregulated according to the IAM salesman.

Suppose he is as confused about other aspects of what he is trying to sell to you?