IAM M&R CONTRACT UPDATE AUG-2013
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I agree. From what I've heard, a lot of your coworkers are also no, (haven't heard one yes yet) and they have already given up on the IAM, and want someone else.AP Tech said:
AMFAinMIAMI
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blue collar said:
The Mechanics at AA are in the Middle of a AMFA Card drive
to remove the TWU & to stop this IAM/TWU Association.
Get in contact with someone from AA.
Get a stack of cards and have the guys sign them.
AMFA at the new AA in 2014
CactUS4Ever
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New Company New Union. Let's make this happen fellas. Don't snooze this time. Let's Oust a The TWUAMFAinMIAMI said:
Just Another BK
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Changing Unions won't change the inevitable fact that wages will rise as we transition to a single carrier. We would all probably be sitting here waiting for the IBT to start negotiating for the next couple of years instead of enjoying a "New" CBA that raises at least my pay by 10.45% !
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is AMFA still filing at AA in August? I heard that drive has stalled.1AA said:
AMFAinMIAMI
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Hey TimTim Nelson said:
The drive to Stop this Association and replace it with a union for the mechanics has not stalled at all.
With almost all of the AA line stations having a majority of mechanics signed we are again in the battle ground which we call Tulsa. Organizers have for over several months have gone to Tulsa and cards have been signed.
The plan is to have enough cards from the Tulsa mechanics to enable a filing at the right time. WE are also looking for the USAirways guys to join with us in this battle to remove the industrial unions from our class and craft.
Everyone talks about an August filing simply because that was the month that the NMB terminated the filing last yr by the IBT.
It is quiet at most of the line stations since there is nothing more that can be done until the cards are filed with the NMB.
What we the AA mechanics want to see now is the T/A not the highlight sheet that the IAM has given to the Mechanics of USAirways.
The most important being the seniority integration agreement this will make or break your T/A. I see a $0.10 increase per hr being added to your IAM Pension is a big thing as well. (for YOU). I understand that the IAM and TWU have agreed to let AA mechanics get into the plan but why would we. Just how long has the plan been in effect and what do you expect to get out of it at the age of the mechanics there.
The merging of the two work groups under two unions is going to be a night mare.
But it would only benefit all of us the mechanics of both to be under one union.
We have separate title groups for auto/facilities/utility which we call title 2. The IAM workers will be better served when integrated within that group. The Title 1 aircraft mechanics, cleaners, and parts washers will have there own seniority list as well.
One CAN NOT BUMP the other as the IAM and IBT have done at other carries.
All of the above paragraph mechanics are in our class and craft and are per the NMB to represented by the same UNION. The union (ANY) can't say we don't want them. So when the IAM talks to your NON aircraft mechanics, those that would be in our Title 2 group, and tells them AMFA does not want them that is a LIE.
We still have another Month or so to see where we are with the cards at that point we can determine better if an AUGUST filing will happen.
No matter how good or Bad your T/A is we hope that the USAirways mechanics sign cards to bring AMFA to AA. This way we can get it all worked out as we become a single carrier and work towards a better JCBA for the entire Maintenance Group.
AMFA at the NEW AA 2014
AMFAinMIAMI
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Just Another BK said:
JABK
It is better to get what you can since you have waited all this time without.
But changing Unions for the future will make the transition to a single carrier and a JCBA faster thus making it possible for another raise as well after our (meaning both) cba's become amenable.
There maybe some comments made by both AA mechanics and USAirways guys here on this forum but that is to be expected. It will only be beneficial for all of us to be under one Union. represented by ONE UNION, not an association.
This association will have us paying different amounts of dues and having different unions representing members at each station. The negotiating team will be made up of IAM&TWU members. That will make us all wait for a JCBA longer thus giving us another pay freeze. Is that what you want?
AMFA at the NEW AA 2014
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10.45% raise and you're still at the bottom. You've been beaten down so long that you think this is a good deal. You guys better hope that your wages rise when you go to single carrier, but something tells me Parker and co. Will have some other excuse as to why they can't.Just Another BK said:
Exactly. People that focus on hourly pay as the most important are the ones that will vote yes for a 5% hourly base increase and lose 10% worth of benny pay or work rule pay, O/T rates etc... They are also the type that will vote in a signing bonus rather than retro, or in exchange for a better % on base pay. Short sited folks who are in rather large dept only sees the money up front not long term, and these are the folks that most companies bank on to pass the first offer givin by the companies (in general). It is very hard to convince people that are dead set in this way to consider the long term effect but it is worth discussing as we are currently doing it now about our retro coming due to us. I know you know this; The higher we raise our base rate the higher our % raises will be down the road, one time payouts and bonuses are exactly that, "one time" and are usually spent before they get it, as well as taxed at a much higher rate than receiving the % raise on the base. This is our careers we all should be looking down the road and long term...1AA said:
