IAM M&R CONTRACT UPDATE AUG-2013

[B737MECHANIC]

Rumor has it union has major developments to report next week ?????????

 

[swamt]

Guess you havent figured out they met on two different weeks this month.

700, on average, how many days per month do they usually meet?

 

[700UW]

It's all controlled by the NMB Chairwoman Linda P, last month was two sessions for a total of six days I believe. The Raid by the ibt killed three months of negotiations if not more as US refused to negotiate until the outcome of the election was known.

 

[737823]

It's all controlled by the NMB Chairwoman Linda P, last month was two sessions for a total of six days I believe. The Raid by the ibt killed three months of negotiations if not more as US refused to negotiate until the outcome of the election was known.

Well its not like they were going anywhere. IAM pretty much sat on their hands for over a year before they filed to be released, they filed, then what? Nothing. No picketing, not even at the NMB to let it be known they are serious. AMFA filed during similar conditions at NWA, they ended up with the biggest increases ever seen and all mechanics benefitted from that. Yes the recession, 9-11 and BK gave NWA and the other unions the opportunity to make an example of them by setting out to bust AMFA, no matter the cost, before they spread through the rest of the industry, but the fact is that every mechanic in the industry benefitted by what happened at NWA from 1999 through 2001 and to this day we are still better off. Our wages today are higher in absolute dollars (not when adjusted for inflation) than they were prior to 2001 but for many of our coworkers that is not the case such as Fleet service and Stores.

So while I would fault the IBT for other things filing for an election at US when the IAM continues to sit on their hands in negotiations isnt one of them. The IAM claims this will extend negotiations, well, after seeing the crumbs they were asking for, and the fact they were not making progress even with that, taking a little longer to get where you want to be may be a better option than throwing the IAM even more time to get you where you dont really want to be.Why should they be willing to settle for what the UAL guys , who are in negotiations, are getting now? They need a union that will at least try and raise the bar, not just ride the coat tails of United mechanics.

Sadly I still think the filing at US was really more about getting cards at AA. Maybe the IBT should be a little more aggressive at UAL, then they would not have to rely on deception in order to get more mechanics to want to become Teamsters. The thing about deception is eventually the truth comes out, the guys who told the lies will be long gone, telling lies to their next assignment, but we will have to live with the results.

So, while having Rival Unions court members from other unions may not be in the best interests of people who have positions in the Unions that are being raided ,despite what these leaders say, its good for Union members and the labor movement as a whole. It brings accountablity to the unaccountable, but care must be taken if a choice to move is made that you dont get lured into a relationship based on lies, lies from different people are still lies.

Josh

 

[700UW]

This is a mechanic"s thread, you said you wouldn't post.

Bob is not an IAM member nor involved in the Section 6 talks at US.

Get a life and stalk someone else. SWA and I are trying to have a normal conversation without your background garbage and noise.

Do you have to pollute and ruin every thread?

 

[737823]

 

No picketing huh Bob?

Guess you didnt see this now have you?

http://aviationblog....lotte-n-c.html/

Or this?

http://www.wbtv.com/story/22062472/us-airways-mechanics-hold-an-informational-picket-at-the-airport?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8805239

And it happened in PHL, CLT and PHX that I know of.

And no union files for a release after just one year, they werent even in mediation in the first year.

The IAM filed for a release and is still waiting for the NMB to respond one way or another.

The IAM has sat on their hands Bob.

http://www.iamdl142.org/Bulletins/2013/USA_2013_MandR-48.pdf

 
 

Guess that thr picket line in high visability charlotte didn't make national headlines. Whats wrong with setting up pickets in New York or DCA where somebody might actuslly see them? Somebody might see them?

 

 
Josh

 

[700UW]

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Guess you havent figured out they met on two different weeks this month.

That is about ALL you can figure out from the "updates" the IAM puts out!!

 

[swamt]

It's all controlled by the NMB Chairwoman Linda P, last month was two sessions for a total of six days I believe. The Raid by the ibt killed three months of negotiations if not more as US refused to negotiate until the outcome of the election was known.

Yes, I understand that.  But at least you guys are getting more days face to face than we are in regular contract nego's.  Folks are starting to get worry about the long drawn out delays here.  As we are averaging a mere 2-3 days per month.  The delays continue...

 

[blue collar]

Yes, I understand that.  But at least you guys are getting more days face to face than we are in regular contract nego's.  Folks are starting to get worry about the long drawn out delays here.  As we are averaging a mere 2-3 days per month.  The delays continue...

Let them continue. I'm in no rush to agree to concessions- and I'll keep voting no until they propose something that has no concessions.

 

[swamt]

Yes.  I too will vote no until concessions are out, AND, retro must also be a part.  We have givin enough in the past and now the company just expects us to throw them concessions during peak times of record profits, record passengers, record growth, and soon record ROIC.   Rumor has it that the ROIC will be more in line and closer to 20% well over the 15% goal.   I still think they are delaying to be darn sure they reach and exceed the goal...

 

[WNMECH]

Same here.
I am in no rush to vote for any concessions.
We have been team players too long and now it is laughable at all the concessions the company wants now.
I don't care what comes out in a TA, I will not vote for anything that doesn't have full retro.
If we let them slide again on full retro, they will drag out our next negotiations even longer because it benifits the company.

 

[swamt]

Same here.
I am in no rush to vote for any concessions.
We have been team players too long and now it is laughable at all the concessions the company wants now.
I don't care what comes out in a TA, I will not vote for anything that doesn't have full retro.
If we let them slide again on full retro, they will drag out our next negotiations even longer because it benifits the company.

100% agree...

 

[700UW]

 
 
June 13, 2014
 
U S AIRWAYS NEGOTIATIONS
 
Your District 142 negotiating committee met with US Airways and representatives of the National Mediation Board (NMB) in Washington, DC the week of June 9, 2014. After 4 days of negotiations, positive movement has been made towards a Tentative Agreement. Your Committee came to DC this week with the expectations of achieving an agreement to bring back for the memberships approval.
 
While we have not completed our goal yet, we will stay and work into the weekend to achieve this goal.
 
Your continued support and solidarity is imperative. We will update the membership as to the outcome of these negotiations as movement is accomplished.
 
 
 

 

[swamt]

That's it?  That's the contract nego's update?  You gotta be kidding.  Why don't they update with the specifics?  That is the lamest update I have ever seen from a contracts nego's update.  I smell soething is not right, they seem to be leaving out specifics for a reason.  I really hope I am wrong and you guys get some good news, but why such a lame update?