IAM Fleet Service topic

[The Bagfather]

All this is making me so mad I don't see how I'm going to be able to enjoy next Sunday's Reptile
Expo.

 

[orioleman]

bagfather,
You got to shake it off . I really need to know what the alligator says to yeah

snap out of old boy .. enquiringly minds are waiting for the next dream


sidenote: Tim thanks for the update . Hope the AGC's are on to this and are taking the appropriate steps

 

[mike33]

If anybody has a copy of the old America west handbook or pre - merger handbook PM PLZ. I need it for an upcoming possible grievance.

Nevada

Would that be an employee book pre 2000 TWU contract? If it was then I might know a couple 20yr HP people that would have such.

Mike

PM ME

 

[charlie Brown]

Can management change our contract any time they choose?

Can someone on here tell me what the options are for the Union, when the company just blatantly puts a contract out regardless if the union agrees with it or not? I know about arbitration, but that could take some time. is that our only recourse?

 

[JoeDirt]

Good question CB.

 

[charlie Brown]

Good question CB.

I feel like the new guys that we have in place are being tested by the company. First came the attendance policy, and now the changes in our contract, its almost like two boxers that have never fought before, kind of just sparring and feeling each other out the first two rounds. Well I think our union needs to deliver a knock-out to the company if at all possible,then the company would have to respect the union after that, which is something they clearly dont do now.

 

[JoeDirt]

Good analogy CB. Its obvious the company has no respect for us or the ND people.

 

[JoeDirt]

Has anybody heard from Hey.. Chill Out lately? Just wondering where have they been.

 

[Hadenough]

Good question Joe. It was good to know that not everyone in PHX was as whacked as that other

poster from there.

 

[necigrad]

If anybody has a copy of the old America west handbook or pre - merger handbook PM PLZ. I need it for an upcoming possible grievance.

I've got one from January 1996. I've talked to someone and they'll be getting it the next time I see them. It should be in your hand by middle of next week. Call me if you need it sooner, you have my cell.

 

[freedom]

Hey tim , thanks for reviewing the contract , it's good that someone is paying attention to those things ..

 

[The Janitor]

New Contracts have Big Problems

I have reviewed the new contract and I have found numorous discrepencies. Unfortunately, none of the discrepencies favor the members, only the company.

For starters, can anyone show me where your contract did away with the 60 day rule for those who may be getting laid off?

The health deductible from Attachment A used to read:
single: $450
family: $900

Now it reads: $900, where did the $450 for single go?

Some places of your contract, the company attorneys change the word 'will' to the more kindler and gentler 'may'.

Please let me know where there is any mention of PVD and BDL as class 1 stations.

And many many more problems.

At any rate, they also removed the word 'pocketsize'. Your contracts are suppose to be pocketsize so your stewards can carry them around. They are also suppose to be bound, not wired in a flimsy way. It's in the agreement and it's non-negotiable. It's called disrespect.

You want to hear something even scarier? Reviewing the 1999 contract with the 2005 one I found more discrepencies and I haven't a clue where the language came from and why some things are ommitted.

The good thing is that you voted in new officers who care about these things and are working to resolve them. The old regime didn't even raise an eyebrow to these problems.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

this board has been dull because of all these posters complaining to eachother about one guy in PHX. This used to be a place where we discussed work related issues and not places to live or smack against various posters.
I agree with you Tim that the new reps are doing a great job but they are also having to clean up alot of the mess that Randy never did over 10years. The company has swamped them and kept them busy and are laughing and making jokes about it. It makes me mad, angry, and pissed off.

Also, I agree with Charlie Brown that the company is challenging the new leadership by intentionally incorporating its own language into the contract and ommitting other key language like PVD and BDL. I'm actually shocked that the company was arrogant enough to leave the 60 day rule in tact. As far as the ACP, here in PHL, we have many who are already jumping steps as the company is violating the 14 day rule and something has to be done pronto before we have a mass exodus of terminations. Therefore, even though there is a big mess out here, I think the IAM will have to focus on resolving the ACP grievances in an expedited manner.

 

[orioleman]

QUESTION ?

If two parties come to an agreement . and one Breeches it . WHY can't we go to court

and sue for Breech of contract.

that is exactly what this company has done with our T/A ..

they agreed in writing on this POS contract but yet FAILED to provide the NEW AGREEMENT in our contract

all you lawyers out there chirp in except freedom .

 

[JoeDirt]

this board has been dull because of all these posters complaining to eachother about one guy in PHX. This used to be a place where we discussed work related issues and not places to live or smack against various posters.
I agree with you Tim that the new reps are doing a great job but they are also having to clean up alot of the mess that Randy never did over 10years. The company has swamped them and kept them busy and are laughing and making jokes about it. It makes me mad, angry, and pissed off.

Also, I agree with Charlie Brown that the company is challenging the new leadership by intentionally incorporating its own language into the contract and ommitting other key language like PVD and BDL. I'm actually shocked that the company was arrogant enough to leave the 60 day rule in tact. As far as the ACP, here in PHL, we have many who are already jumping steps as the company is violating the 14 day rule and something has to be done pronto before we have a mass exodus of terminations. Therefore, even though there is a big mess out here, I think the IAM will have to focus on resolving the ACP grievances in an expedited manner.

The question now becomes....
What can we do about this intentional and blatant breach of our contract? Can they get away with this without any consequences? What legal recourse do we have? Any ideas?

 

[orioleman]

Whatever happened to Redeye ??

he seemed to be pretty kin on the legal aspect of things. did he retire or get banned or something

Redeye where are you . need some legalize