The following is the post made by Hunter - it is a good explanation of what to expect. It was responding to Liveinahotel
Obviously, you are not well versed in contract law as it relates to the IAM/TWA CBA. The scope provisions in that contract were/are enforceable in the event of either a merger or any fragmentation of TWA.
Regardless, the issues in the current seniority lawsuit brought by the former TWA F/A's does not hinge on the language of the scope provision in the IAM/TWA CBA. The issues are much more broad and consist of various tort law claims. All of these claims are civil in nature, which lowers the evidentiary bar to only a preponderance of the evidence. The former TWA F/A's need only convince the jury using the "reasonable persons" standard. I ask you, would a reasonable person see the "fairness and equity" of a 40 year former TWA F/A being sent packing in favor of a 40 day nAAitive remaining employed?
As far as your assertion that this issue is over... I remind you that the wheels of justice grind slowly, but they do indeed turn. You should not be lulled into a false sense of security simply because the issue is not front and center. APFA (John Ward) has purposely not been forthcoming concerning the gravity of this issue nor the potentially perilous position in which he has placed the APFA and its membership.
Should AA/APFA/TWA, llc.'s motion to dismiss be overcome, this case will play out before a jury of "our" peers who will look at the allegations, determine liability and assess damages. Remember, this case will be heard in New York, a notoriously "union" town. I am counting on my fellow unionists to see the unfair way in which the former TWA F/A's have been stapled. If the public admonitions of the entire ALF-CIO are any indication, all of organized labor is will be appalled at APFA's behavior when the facts of this case come to light.
Obviously, you are not well versed in contract law as it relates to the IAM/TWA CBA. The scope provisions in that contract were/are enforceable in the event of either a merger or any fragmentation of TWA.
Regardless, the issues in the current seniority lawsuit brought by the former TWA F/A's does not hinge on the language of the scope provision in the IAM/TWA CBA. The issues are much more broad and consist of various tort law claims. All of these claims are civil in nature, which lowers the evidentiary bar to only a preponderance of the evidence. The former TWA F/A's need only convince the jury using the "reasonable persons" standard. I ask you, would a reasonable person see the "fairness and equity" of a 40 year former TWA F/A being sent packing in favor of a 40 day nAAitive remaining employed?
As far as your assertion that this issue is over... I remind you that the wheels of justice grind slowly, but they do indeed turn. You should not be lulled into a false sense of security simply because the issue is not front and center. APFA (John Ward) has purposely not been forthcoming concerning the gravity of this issue nor the potentially perilous position in which he has placed the APFA and its membership.
Should AA/APFA/TWA, llc.'s motion to dismiss be overcome, this case will play out before a jury of "our" peers who will look at the allegations, determine liability and assess damages. Remember, this case will be heard in New York, a notoriously "union" town. I am counting on my fellow unionists to see the unfair way in which the former TWA F/A's have been stapled. If the public admonitions of the entire ALF-CIO are any indication, all of organized labor is will be appalled at APFA's behavior when the facts of this case come to light.