how do you want to board
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USCREW
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Love your new avatar. Warm and fuzzy. When I was commuting, my roommate commuted from Alaska, you may know her--Bridghid. Anyway, she moved even farther...The Philippines!!!! We have a female captain in DCA who has five kids and commutes from Australia.
OK. Thanks for clarifying that. I do agree that commuters are most impacted by boarding order. That's why I suggested separating the two issues.
I still see non-revving as a benefit offered by the company to all employees. I don't see why seniority should impact how and when someone should be able to use that benefit.
There are some benefits that are structured to increase with seniority, such as vacation and 401k matching. Non-revving is not like that. The argument could be made that maybe it should be, but the fact remains that it is not currently setup that way.
IMO, first come first serve provides the most fair way for all employees to use this benefit that is offered to all employees.
BoeingBoy
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IMHO, since they CHOOSE to commute they don't get higher priority. Their CHOICE isn't between commuting, moving, or giving up the job. It's CHOOSING among quality of life or pay issues.
The same would go for pilot's who choose to commute so they can fly higher paying equipment or hold a Captain's seat.
All I'm saying is that if any preference is given, it should go only to those forced into making that decision, not those who choose to commute for their own convenience.
Jim
USCREW
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On the East, the structure is seniority based. The argument about fairness with the FCFS is skewed because the access is not equal for all. There are too many variables involved, and a greater chance of cheating.
Retirees have earned their place and should be given their seniority priority for travel back also.
N965VJ
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Big Brother was giving me the creeps.
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I believe that asking for input is just a means for the Company to say “After reviewing input from many employees…†and then coming down with a choice that they intended all along.
FCFS.
Why? It’s cheaper to administer.
USCREW
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IMO the choice was not made for convenience, but to maintain a certain level of income to support one's family. I don't see it as having more of a choice than someone who was displaced due to "juniority". Both are commuting to sustain a job and a life, and one should not have a higher priority than the other. Who is to judge which situation is worse?
Also a selling point in recruiting new-hires, instead of saying..."You will get free flying benefits, but there will be no chance in h*ll that you will ever get on , so just forget that I mentioned that benefit at all!!!!!"
Couldn't have said it better... Don't we all complain about low pay? How can we expect to attract and keep good talent if one key benefit that draws people to the airline industry can't be used?!
Thanks for the point USCREW. Sure you're in favor of DOH?
USCREW
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It's all about me of course, and although half of the company is senior to me, I believe that it is fair. DOH because it is earned and is unquestionable.
Can someone explain current commuter procedure/policy? Are commuters required to register as such? Is there some way to know who/how many people are commuting to work? I've read on these boards that commuters can get two breaks if they can't make it, or something like that. How does that work?
Based on the answers, it might be worthwhile investigating an option for commuter travel outside of non-rev.
Thanks.
Based on the answers, it might be worthwhile investigating an option for commuter travel outside of non-rev.
Thanks.
USCREW
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I am only aware of this policy/procedure existing for East F/As. It is contractual. If you are not an F/A, you have no "two-strikes" leeway...and may be laughed out of the office!
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Well, to me it's not fair to give someone who chooses to commute from Stumpwater, which has never been a base, any priority - they made a choice at some point to become a commuter.
Once past that, if you start trying to decide which commuters should get higher priority, where do you draw the line.
Does the reserve get higher priority, since they might not make as much as a blockholder? Unless they use the ETB, then they might make more, so take the higher priority away?
Does the single parent commuting get higher priority than the no kids/married two incomes in the family commuter? They might need the money more.
Maybe reserves should get the higher priority and not blockholders. After all, the reserve can replace a blockholder who doesn't show up a lot better than vice versa.
Maybe it should be based on earnings - those below a certain income level get higher priority, those above don't.
The list could go on and on.
Again, all I'm saying is that if higher priority is given to commuters it should be reserved to those "forced" to commute.
Just my opinion.....
Jim
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How about keeping the talent that has been faithful to this airline for an entire lifetime--what about their "key" benefit? Or maybe the true intent of FCFS is to get new replacements often; keeping the workforce junior and at a lower pay scale.
I am forced to commute due to a Hottie in Stumpsville.
USCREW
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No pun intended I'm sure.That deserves "must ride" status
Jim
