Hotline for HP and US Airways Mechanics

[delldude]

I hear that a lot will be voting IBT.

those guys can't even read....

 

[Snafu]

35% of 7,000.

And you never just file with 35%.

I thought that there were issues with the 7,000 total.....issues with the "reasonable expectation of returning to work" and those other things that would make members ineligible. So that may make the supposed 7,000 eligible members a lesser number. Who determines that??

 

[700UW]

The NMB, and with US/West planes coming in-house under the IAM/US CBA it will add jobs.

 

[Bird Doctor]

35% of 7,000.
And you never just file with 35%.

When are you going to learn that 7000 was an old number. As we have tried to tell you the NMB is going tell you how mamy members are Eligibil to VOTE.

Try reading this again:

9.2 Eligibility
All individuals working regularly in the craft or class on and after the cut-off date are eligible to vote in an NMB representation election. Employees may not vote in more than one election at the same time.

9.201 Part-Time Employees
Only employees with a regular employee-employer relationship or scheduled work assignments are eligible to vote. The Investigator should determine: (1) whether the employee works an identifiable schedule during a specified time period;
(2) whether the employee regularly relieves other employees;
(3) what benefits the employee receives;
(4) what deductions are taken from the employee's pay and;
(5) other relevant facts.

9.202 Temporary Employees
Only employees with a present interest in the craft or class in dispute are eligible to vote. Temporary employees are eligible if they have a reasonable expectation of continued employment or re-employment in the craft or class.

9.203 Dismissed Employees
Dismissed employees are ineligible to vote unless the dismissal is being appealed through an applicable grievance procedure or an action for reinstatement has been filed before a court or a government agency of competent jurisdiction. If the grievance or court action is final, and the dismissal has been upheld prior to the count of ballots, the individual is ineligible to vote. See also NMB Rules §1206.6 (29 CFR §1206.6).

9.204 Furloughed Employees
Furloughed employees are eligible to vote in the craft or class in which they last worked if they retain an employee-employer relationship and have a reasonable expectation of returning to work. Furloughed employees regularly working in another craft or class are ineligible to vote in the craft or class from which the employees are furloughed.

9.205 Leave of Absence
Employees on authorized leaves of absence including military leave, leave for labor organization activities, or authorized sick leave are eligible. Employees receiving disability payments are eligible if they retain an employee-employer relationship and have a reasonable expectation of returning to work. Employees working in another craft or class, working for the carrier in an official capacity, or working for another carrier are ineligible.

9.206 Probationary Employees
Probationary employees in the craft or class in probationary status are eligible.

9.207 Working For Another Carrier
Employees working for another carrier other than the carrier involved in the dispute are ineligible.

9.208 Contractor's Employees
Employees of contractors which are not part of the carrier’s transportation system are ineligible.

9.209 Individuals Based in Foreign Countries
Only employees based within the United States and/or its possessions are eligible.

9.210 Retired Employees
Retired employees are ineligible.

9.211 Management Officials
Management officials are ineligible to vote. Management officials include individuals with:
(1) the authority to dismiss and/or discipline employees or to effectively recommend the same;
(2) the authority to supervise;
(3) the ability to authorize and grant overtime;
(4) the authority to transfer and/or establish assignments;
(5) the authority to create carrier policy and;
(6) the authority to commit carrier funds.

The Investigator also considers:
(1) whether the authority exercised is circumscribed by operating and policy manuals;
(2) the placement of the individual in the organizational hierarchy of the carrier; and
(3) any other relevant factors regarding the individual’s duties and responsibilities.

9.212 Preponderance
Employees who perform work in more than one craft or class may be eligible to vote if the preponderance of their work time is spent performing job functions encompassed by the craft or class during a time period specified by the Investigator. Participants asserting that employees not on the list of potential eligible voters are eligible must provide evidence that these employees preponderantly perform job functions in the craft or class. The Investigator will inform the participants in writing of the specific documentation required for consideration of whether these employees are eligible to vote. Absent unusual circumstances, a period of 30 to 90 calendar days will be used by the Investigator for a preponderance check

7000 is not going to be the number.

 

[awausairtech]

Bet That Put A Hole In The Bag..

 

[makers mark]

There aren't even 7,000 on the seniority list.

And the company claims 5,400 on the US Airways.

 

[delldude]

There aren't even 7,000 on the seniority list.

And the company claims 5,400 on the US Airways.

boy oh boy...for some STRANGE reason you guys sure are spending alot of time hoping the numbers can be tweaked downward....
Fred said....

 

[fanlube]

The NMB, and with US/West planes coming in-house under the IAM/US CBA it will add jobs.

As I understand it AWA outsources all checks, should the west coast guys expect to see some sort of check headed their way. Example the West Coast birds done on west coast and east coast birds done on east coast, surely there has been talk?

 

[AIRWOMAN]

9.2 Eligibility
All individuals working regularly in the craft or class on and after the cut-off date are eligible to vote in an NMB representation election. Employees may not vote in more than one election at the same time.
Cut off date? What determines this?

9.204 Furloughed Employees
Furloughed employees are eligible to vote in the craft or class in which they last worked if they retain an employee-employer relationship and have a reasonable expectation of returning to work. Furloughed employees regularly working in another craft or class are ineligible to vote in the craft or class from which the employees are furloughed.
What constitutes "a reasonable expectation"?

9.209 Individuals Based in Foreign Countries
Only employees based within the United States and/or its possessions are eligible.
Does US Airways have any employees based outside the US and/or it's possesions? And if so, why wouldn't they be eligible to vote? Or are they not bound by the contract?

 

[smmech]

boy oh boy...for some STRANGE reason you guys sure are spending alot of time hoping the numbers can be tweaked downward....
Fred said....

Tweeked or tweaked? well the numbers are the numbers and they are up for grabs.. Fred said..

 

[delldude]

Cut off date? What determines this?
will be something to the effect of:
employees on the books or furloghed at such and such a date.

What constitutes "a reasonable expectation"?
some type of return to work probability.


Does US Airways have any employees based outside the US and/or it's possesions? And if so, why wouldn't they be eligible to vote? Or are they not bound by the contract?
mechanic and related outside US, contract maintenance as far as I know.

 

[awausairtech]

This is a FACT: The Company wants the IAM contract, if they did not they would have Had The IBT contract done by now. They know they can get what they want from the IAM as THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST and THAT has a lot to do with how members have LOST hope and do not participate in the IAM UNION. So as I see it, ITS WELL OVER TIME FOR A CHANGE. SO GET THEM IBT CARDS IN AND GET YOU SOME NOW AND NOT IN MAYBE 2009 2010 OR LONGER.
Let the IBT work for you and not you work for them as the IAM has.

and DELL this is how you RAID with facts.

 

[delldude]

SO GET THEM IBT CARDS IN AND GET YOU SOME NOW

because we're really hurtin' at this point...please we're beggin' ya....we still are short just like dell said or we wouldn't be beggin'....

please...please

 

[Snafu]

December 1, 2005

Editor’s Notebook

Where Has All the Talent Gone?

A painful transition is occurring in the aviation maintenance industry, a shift in the market's need for maintenance technicians with certain skills to a new type of technician who is more comfortable with troubleshooting critical paths and computer databases than shooting rivets and opening inspection panels. The transition is painful because jobs that were finally reaching the point of paying a decent salary have disappeared, sent overseas to lower-cost maintenance providers or to non-airline maintenance companies that aren't required to employ as many mechanics with A&P certificates as is an operator that conducts its own maintenance.

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This post and discussion can be found here.

 

[awausairtech]

:mf_boff: hhmmmmmmmmmm... What is the F/A's CONTRACT up to????????????? :mf_boff: o 700 just for you presantent lol.....spell ck void lol HAVE A NICE IBT DAY...

WELL DID THE IAM RESCHOOL YOU BOYS FOR THE LAST 10HR'S