The point I see is this, and really it's quite simple. Any and all concessions were allowed due to a floor vote by your fellow workers. It is called a democracy.
Obviously your standard for what Democracy is,is very low.The Soviets had what they called "Democracy" however we did not recognize their version of Democracy. In the Soviet Union people were allowed, encouraged even, to vote. In our version there is the element of free debate and an exchange of information. In the TWU version of "Democracy" much like the Soviet version dissenting views, an element of debate is forbidden.
Tell me if a vote were taken today how do you think it would go? That question applies to both the contract and AMFA.
You suggest that we take this vote away and go another route? Whether I was at TWA is really not significant is it? You may wish to impress some with your ramblings about ruining our profession, but I believe if you look over your shoulder you'll see Delle and McCormick doing the ruination, not I, not the TWU, but your little buddy and savior, Delle
Wrong again. While NWA may be taking some big hits as far as layoffs what we really should be looking at, since we are talking about the profession, the profession being an A&P mechanic, is how many A&P mechanics per aircraft, recognized as A&P mechanics and being paid as such, those airlines have compared to us. Then compare the benifits and pay those A&P recieve compared to us. You see the TWU has been eliminating A&P jobs and replacing them with other TWU represented workers for twenty years. Didnt you guys in MCI lose a lot of your shops since you did not have OSMs?
See, I've learned to "live outside the bun". I do not need Owens, you or others to lead me anywhere. I do my own research and base my opinions on that research. I do not go to lunch with Mr. Little, or even my local TWU officers.
Great, then please by all means share your findings, and the source, with all of us!
Owens and you are real big on calling names to anyone not embracing AMFA.
Such as? I would not berate a FSC or any other worker who would not benifit from AMFA for not embracing it. You made a statement, back it up.
Now I wonder why I would be hesitant to even debate issues with the likes of you guys, I see it as a waste of time really.
You have a point there.
My statements sound like management huh Owens?
Yes, they do.
Seems you know a lot about management, enlighten us in a short synopsis, say less than 5,000 words, on why that is.
I believe that I already have.
If you've worked at AA for say over 20 years, for those twenty years you have lived on those wages, or you have starved and sent your kids to live with relatives. but bottom line, you chose to remain with your family.
Did you forget the fact that we took a 25% paycut? Most people dont enjoy a 25% margin for disposable income. Maybe you did out there in Missouri, but we have never had that much cushion.
Do you guys cry like this in front of your kids? Some kind of role modeling going on.
Is rolling over and accepting concessions for twenty years your idea of being a role model?