Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[nic4us]

Better yet, Nic4. He just insisted separate ops is ending with his imaginary JCBA.
You have the Westoffs confounded with answering this.

The only thing "imaginary" about the JCBA at POR is usapa thinking it has a chance in he'll of surviving to be at the SLI.

 

[nevergiveup]

The only thing "imaginary" about the JCBA at POR is usapa thinking it has a chance in he'll of surviving to be at the SLI.

shhhh....nap time.

 

[nevergiveup]

Good lord you people are dense. No merger, no POR, no JCBA. Back to status quo. You know, that hellish place where your fake union pretends to have a clue all the while being completely ignored by literally every single party involved in aviation. You remember loa93 right? That's it into perpetuity. That's what happens if no merger.

So according to you we ratified a JCBA, but we night not get it. ooooooookay. back to sleep.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Good lord you people are dense. No merger, no POR, no JCBA. Back to status quo. You know, that hellish place where your fake union pretends to have a clue all the while being completely ignored by literally every single party involved in aviation. You remember loa93 right? That's it into perpetuity. That's what happens if no merger.

[font="Arial""]So you are asking for an action from the court based on an event that may or may not happen in the future? In fact you have no way of even knowing what list will be put before you to vote on in the JCBA, down the road.

It ain't ripe Res, never has been. Won't be for a long time. No injunction based on your fears of what “might happen” will be issued. No knife thrust. The Ninth already made that clear.

Greeter[/font]

 

[Metroyet]

oh yes, that is how a JCBA works. It moves all over the place. Right. You idiots can't face the fact Marty tricked you again out of your wallets.

Honestly, do you understand ANYTHING about the MOU and the situation you're in? Anything at all? My money is on the POR approval, then the fun really starts. Then it will probably come to your attention that nowhere, in no way, is the East/West dispute addressed. The Judge will do that for you quickly, and unfailingly supported by the APA and the company...THIS TIME, it's not in the companies interest to pretend neutrality...LAST TIME, you offered them over a BILLION dollars on a silver platter and they, all of the sudden, became a "neutral" party. Watch how unbelievably "un-neutral" they are on this one.

 

[Phoenix]

Honestly, do you understand ANYTHING about the MOU and the situation you're in? Anything at all? My money is on the POR approval, then the fun really starts. Then it will probably come to your attention that nowhere, in no way, is the East/West dispute addressed. The Judge will do that for you quickly, and unfailingly supported by the APA and the company...THIS TIME, it's not in the companies interest to pretend neutrality...LAST TIME, you offered them over a BILLION dollars on a silver platter and they, all of the sudden, became a "neutral" party. Watch how unbelievably "un-neutral" they are on this one.

We are all eyes, boo boo.

 

[Phoenix]

[font=Arial"]So you are asking for an action from the court based on an event that may or may not happen in the future? In fact you have no way of even knowing what list will be put before you to vote on in the JCBA, down the road.

It ain't ripe Res, never has been. Won't be for a long time. No injunction based on your fears of what “might happen” will be issued. No knife thrust. The Ninth already made that clear.

Greeter[/font]

Yeah, they (the bound West class ) are asking for the court for an injunction against USAPA to deny USAPA the latitude that the 9th, SCOTUS, and Silver all upheld, and the knife thrust they have is that they vote 98% to let USAPA proceed, so naturally the want the court to say the opposite of what they voted for. Dire Wolves, Spartans, and Friends of Barney too.

 

[snapthis]

Honestly, do you understand ANYTHING about the MOU and the situation you're in? Anything at all?

I don't think Claxon is a US Airways pilot, which may explain the lack of understanding concerning the debate.

 

[Zone5]

Really? Might want to ask the Empire guys or the TWA guys if that is a true statement.

Status, class and category are determined by SENIORITY. I guess you fail to understand that DOH/LOS is not seniority.

It pretty much is where I have come from and still are, for that matter. I think you are the one that fails to understand that DOH/LOS is seniority! Maybe you will get a better grip on the concept when the next West equipment bid comes out.


seajay

 

[luvthe9]

Honestly, do you understand ANYTHING about the MOU and the situation you're in? Anything at all? My money is on the POR approval, then the fun really starts. Then it will probably come to your attention that nowhere, in no way, is the East/West dispute addressed. The Judge will do that for you quickly, and unfailingly supported by the APA and the company...THIS TIME, it's not in the companies interest to pretend neutrality...LAST TIME, you offered them over a BILLION dollars on a silver platter and they, all of the sudden, became a "neutral" party. Watch how unbelievably "un-neutral" they are on this one.

Kev, please come down off the ledge now.

 

[luvthe9]

. Back to status quo.

That works for us, attrition baby while you wither on the vine in the desert.

 

[Freighterguynow]

This is more of Marty's "conditional ripeness" lunacy.

Ridiculous. But an apt note to finish on for AOL.

And they actually WANT to be front of Wake AGAIN. I saw that and one thought came to mind : "Once bitten twice shy"

 

[cleardirect]

[font=Arial"]So you are asking for an action from the court based on an event that may or may not happen in the future? In fact you have no way of even knowing what list will be put before you to vote on in the JCBA, down the road.

It ain't ripe Res, never has been. Won't be for a long time. No injunction based on your fears of what “might happen” will be issued. No knife thrust. The Ninth already made that clear.

Greeter[/font]

If you are correct you have nothing to worry about. Right?

The case will be dismissed. The west will have spent more money. We will no no closer to resolution.

Except why did usapa spend money on a the wrong defendant in NY if this is not a done deal and it does not matter yet?

you can keep screaming ripeness but the rest of the parties want this to end. Even if you are right and the deal dies. We still need a answer if we are going to get a contract stand alone.

Unless you you really want to retire on LOA93 we are going to need a court to make a decision. Why the fear and avoidance of that simple question?

 

[traderjake]

I think you are the one that fails to understand that DOH/LOS is seniority!

Not according to the last four pilot seniority arbitrations.

 

[Claxon]

So according to you we ratified a JCBA, but we night not get it. ooooooookay. back to sleep.

Be careful. They are being spoon fed this JCBA magical fairy tale. The one where things appear and go away on their own. Sounds like a JCBA to me. The company likes the fact there is no amenable date or language the best!