Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Walmartgreeter]

If you liked that, you'll love Fed Ex's take on Darwin's theory of evolution and Natural Selection.

I also like the one with the Tom Hanks type Cast Away, returning home. He finally delivers the package and it has a SatPhone in it.

Thanks for the laughs.

Greeter

 

[Phoenix]

Geesh, i start into a carafe of Malbec and all you easties have gone to sleep.

Bean

Yeah, the repetitive posts of clear are like a white noise generator or a metronome.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

On another note...I just read the USAPA report on day three of the USAPA vs PBGC trial. It sounds very upbeat. That can only mean one thing. We are going to lose.

Yep.

 

[dca319]

Key sentence and where is the "send more cash" plea?

If that's all you got out of that then you're a fool.

 

[snapthis]

I also like the one with the Tom Hanks type Cast Away, returning home. He finally delivers the package and it has a SatPhone in it.

Thanks for the laughs.

Greeter

I remember that scene. He would have missed out on all of that one on one with his friend, Wilson if he used the phone.

It's good to come out of the trenches every now and then like the soldiers did in 1914. There were many battles ahead and only 5 months into WWI.

This short film seems appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05-27UBQV4

 

[cleardirect]

Funny that the Leonidas (2-28) update did not address any of the MOU language that kills their case. But it hopefully keeps the checks coming!

could it be that it was not addressed because it does not exists?

That the MOU does not kill the Nicolau

Other than some theory from the jail house lawyers who said the MOU kills the Nicolau?

Has a court determined that?

Has usapa officially released an update saying the MOU kills the Nicolau?

 

[cleardirect]

A letter "three months ago" from Paul Jones to the NMB. My oh my how time goes by. Different world now. When Paul sent that letter we were all on bench because we had botched the approval of the first MOU. The Company was not too happy about that, and were continuing on the path of "no merger." Just in case.

Since then, the Company happily agreed to a new protocol. They knew YOU had to vote on it. If you approved it you just let them off the hook. Wow, did you ever approve it! The Company no longer has a problem. There is an injunction that lasts until a JCBA, and no ripeness until that time. By then the POR will have passed and presto! A new method of integration, this one with the Company taking a powder.

Thanks again to you all. Paul Jones does not have a problem any more, unless the merger falls through.

Greeter

You have made the claim several times that the injunction ends with a JCBA. I looked at the order. Please post the page and quote from the judges order that says it ends with a JCBA.

I don't see it.

Also what official communication have said that the passage of the MOU kills the Nicolau.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Anyone know how the F/As just merged their lists? Slotting, LOS, age, height, sex, number of crew bags, who saved who, best aircraft paint job at the time of merger,.....I have not a clue. Anyone?

Greeter

 

[Res Judicata]

Anyone know how the F/As just merged their lists? Slotting, LOS, age, height, sex, number of crew bags, who saved who, best aircraft paint job at the time of merger,.....I have not a clue. Anyone?

Greeter

Anybody know what USCABAS LUP for ignoring final and binding arbitration is?

ANYONE.???

 

[cleardirect]

Man, that's a whole different interpretation of "free to negotiate", as was ruled by the Ninth Circuit AND Judge Silver.

Free to negotiate. Don't worry about the other words on either side of those precious little words.

The judges just like to be wordy when they really just meant to say go ahead and do what you want.

 

[cleardirect]

You may certainly be right there Bean, I don't know. But you have to ask why lawyers say what they say. Did you read that letter from US to the NMB and think at any point "What a crock!"?

I think this will come down to who has the smartest lawyers and I don't know who that is.

One of the smartest things I've ever heard was from a PSA pilot about their strike. It didn't work out to well and I asked why. He said something like "when things like a strike happens both sides start spreading a bunch of BS, and you have to be careful not to start believing your own BS. We believed our own BS." Not sure who is believing theirs.

Really? It all comes down to who has the smartest lawyers.
So facts or the rule of law has nothing to do with it.

You really are believing your own BS.

God luck with that.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Anybody know what USCABAS LUP for ignoring final and binding arbitration is?

ANYONE.???

DOH with conditions and restrictions to protect.......

 

[cleardirect]

Was it to preclude the presence of full beards? THAT would be a true story.

No.

That would have been prevented by having every rep and officer fly a trip to stay current.

 

[cleardirect]

Anyone know how the F/As just merged their lists? Slotting, LOS, age, height, sex, number of crew bags, who saved who, best aircraft paint job at the time of merger,.....I have not a clue. Anyone?

Greeter

They merged using they merger policy. Just like we did.

 

[cleardirect]

DOH with conditions and restrictions to protect.......

That is an outcome not an LUP.