Feb / Mar 2013 IAM Fleet Service Discussions

[IAM Informer]

Dave for someone who claims not to be you sure do have issues with it you've lost the credibility and personally have grown tired with your meaning less post what happened to the days when mods kept on topic.
Still waiting for just 2 things RD has done for the membership. I see your having a hard time with that so maybe one of your koolaid drinking AGCs can help you out. Thought for sure you would have thrown the UA debacle out there since you pimp out so wel on other sites

CJ
Any word from phx about negotiations

 

[ograc]

May I digress from the past posts to ask a meaningful question? When are the ballots to be counted on the DL 141 UA TA?

 

[Kev3188]

Pretty sure it's "on" as we speak?

 

[BLUTO]

Dave for someone who claims not to be you sure do have issues with it you've lost the credibility and personally have grown tired with your meaning less post what happened to the days when mods kept on topic.
Still waiting for just 2 things RD has done for the membership. I see your having a hard time with that so maybe one of your koolaid drinking AGCs can help you out. Thought for sure you would have thrown the UA debacle out there since you pimp out so wel on other sites

CJ
Any word from phx about negotiations

we are on topic thiz iz
a iam forum u said u work
for iam u inform on the iam w
secrect stuff only u know
n share w us here n thiz fourm
u know who i am now since we
talked n u knw im not dave!
u told me u would prove ur not nielson
whut happen to our agreemnt?
i proved im not dave now ur turn!

 

[Tim Nelson]

May I digress from the past posts to ask a meaningful question? When are the ballots to be counted on the DL 141 UA TA?

I believe the ballots will be counted on Saturday and Easter Sunday. So, we won't know until then. Our network has special key people across the system now so I think we have a good handle on things and the reports are a solid 70% No for ramp but probably higher. And something around 60% No for customer service. Delaney is saying people are confused [see last update] and that many in Ttowbar's station EWR never received ballots because of their own fault. What needs to happen once the TA's are voted out are for these "141 rising lodge' members in office to accept that the membership can actually read and that the TA sucked instead of making the company laugh at the members by calling them confused. At US AIRWAYS, they have heard 'confused' before with the mechanics. regards,

 

[The Bagfather]

Prediction: If the UA TA is voted down the next one will come back with less scope protection for field stations with slightly higher monetary compensation to offset medical costs. BF
PS someone pointed out iam informer to me one time. It wasnt Nelson.
Note to Tim: OK 700 goes overboard on downgrading the RLA but it goes a long way toward explaining where we are both good and bad.

 

[Kev3188]

Prediction: If the UA TA is voted down the next one will come back with less scope protection for field stations with slightly higher monetary compensation to offset medical costs. BF

Not a bad theory, given past practice.

How do you "come back with less," when under this T/A, many have zero scope now?

 

[robbedagain]

they start reducing scope for the hubs!!! 🙂

 

[T5towbar]

May I digress from the past posts to ask a meaningful question? When are the ballots to be counted on the DL 141 UA TA?

The ballots will be counted this weekend, and the results by Monday. The company needs this by the first of April so they can integrate for the summer flight schedule. If it goes down, we will still remain status quo, and they will have to go to a "Plan B" cause we will still be separate.

Problem is, not everyone received ballots....... As Tim said, I know that a few here at EWR and IAH did not receive ballots in a timely fashion, if not at all. Funny thing is that everyone got the IAM Messenger newsletter, but not a voting packet..........hmmmmm!

Bagfather, we will be fighting for scope, especially for the stations that the are now insourcing. Those stations, and the 29 original cities in the old UA agreement, (along with IAH & CLE) should be protected. Protect the work first. Of course our (sSO pilots) gave up their 50 scope, and the codeshare with US will be ending, so there will be a big hole in the South Eastern part of the system that IAD and IAH will have to cover. Will that present opportunities for our members in those cities? Or Air Wisconsin (in IAD) get more work? IMHO, we should be doing the express work in ALL seven hubs, and not by some cinderella agreement that will expire in 2016. But you are right that some of the smaller cities will get whacked no matter what happens.

Also, bring back the 1.00 Market Override and add it to ORD. That's $160.00 or more to one's paycheck each month.

But the biggest issue is the seniority problem, and that won't be resolved till the middle of April. That is a big problem on the sCO side, especially in the Lead position. (amongst other things like lost seniority, but that a lot to discuss) The way that sUA does it, won't fly with sCO. We do it by DOH, not time served as Lead. We have leads who had to wait a long time to upgrade (either by choice or lack of opportunity or bad timing), and now they will lose their seniority. Why is that a problem? If you have 20 years (on the ramp, and not came over from Chelsea) you should keep your 20 years and bit with the Leads with your 20 years time. I have only 8 years as a lead, but 19 total. The way sUA does it, I will only have 8 years! That ain't happening.

We will know by April Fools Day...........

 

[Tim Nelson]

Prediction: If the UA TA is voted down the next one will come back with less scope protection for field stations with slightly higher monetary compensation to offset medical costs. BF
PS someone pointed out iam informer to me one time. It wasnt Nelson.
Note to Tim: OK 700 goes overboard on downgrading the RLA but it goes a long way toward explaining where we are both good and bad.

The RLA is just the shell that governs but all things under it are acceptable. I see that TWU ramp at southwest is picketing. That is a good thing. How do any negotiations take place at any airline, without a union involving the membership? The IAM hasn't picketed United or US AIRWAYS and hasn't negotiated at all outside the negotiating room or inside it. Instead of writing love letters and nice pictures on the web site, your agc's should be organizing pickets. They are all talk. Haven't done anything yet. And the Locals also are to blame. The CLT local should get the MX and fleet together and picket, same with PHL, and PHX. At some point, MX and fleet needs to be on the same page as this is embarrassing to be in the same union but so out of touch with eachother. Wish everyone a good resurrection Sunday. regards,

 

[700UW]

Back in 99 was the only time Mtc and Fleet were together in solidarity, the day we all wore the red sweatbands system-wide and labor relations and the VP of mtc was wondering what was going on especially since the negotiating committee walked in the room for negotiations with their sweatbands on too.

Membership apathy and the lack of solidarity are the biggest threat to the membership.

 

[robbedagain]

the solidarity needs to start like yesterday and it needs to be strong its the key ingrediant to conquering mgmt tactic

 

[BLUTO]

Prediction: If the UA TA is voted down the next one will come back with less scope protection for field stations with slightly higher monetary compensation to offset medical costs. BF
PS someone pointed out iam informer to me one time. It wasnt Nelson.
Note to Tim: OK 700 goes overboard on downgrading the RLA but it goes a long way toward explaining where we are both good and bad.

me n iam informer r cool now
we talk in bakground 4 few dayz
he knows im not dave and he sez
he cant tell me who he is cuz he
is imbedded undercover deep
in iam. he promised to tell sum
stuff on nielson soon!

 

[wings396]

Didz he tell u that u r not textin on here, and how pathetic it b lookin?
I have seen you post on here without the ghetto jam, so not too sure what all dat b about. It b lookin like a 15 year old kid.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Wings he's looking worse than a 15 year old.