Envoy: How Mellow Dramatic

Yes they were and the jetways smelled really good in Florida in the summer when the leftovers were left to rot in the heat and humidity. I remember many a time getting a bath when cleaning off the jetway. Talk about wino stink. :blink:
I'm amazed that there was any drop of wine left in those trays. It must of been from the spillage caused during boarding when passengers tried to squeeze past us in the aisle with their carry-ons (roll-aboards didn't exist then). They always seemed to have a third arm for that little wino cuplet though!
 
Amen Sista! :up:

sky high states: Interesting how ALL YOU JUNIOR people on this board do the same, b!tch, B!tch, b!tch!!! Or play GAMES..........arrive to the airport, go get a Latte, and wait your 90 minutes, WHILE PASSENGERS are waiting to depart. Nice work ethic!!!!

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I think it should be available to people if they want it to be thier career, however, with attitudes and limited worldviews like yours, so willing to throw people under the bus, I don't have much hope for the future of the career.

sky high states: Geez, you flew overseas. I LIVED THERE. And began my career flying International. Call that limited?
Throw people under the bus? Isnt that what you did when you AGREED to work for lower wages at MidAtlantic? Or was that career advancing???

You know why we get into it, so often? You hate Pittsburgh, Pittsburghers, you insult your own colleagues, state the union is useless, badmouth just about everyone in the company on this board, have a negative attitude (sureeeeeeeee, it's only on the board) and when someone sets you straight, like Pitbull has so many times, you never, ever apologize. It's always met with silence. But, you spout these work ethics of yours. LOL.
As far as attitudes, its NOT a senior issue.....it's SYSTEMWIDE. Every employee group! Every seniority level. East AND West. That you constantly point fingers at the senior group is insulting, ignorant and prior for the course with you.

I know, I know, you would never admit wrong, so, I'm expecting a witty, insulting retort back.


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I have no desire to be a topped-out flight attendant or make a career out of it. I think it should be available to people if they want it to be thier career.............
Wouldn't it be better to limit the amout of tiime people work here.......perhaps 15 or less years max? It could help make the reserve time less and encourage others to prepare for a caree job.

At McDonalds, very few of their employees think of it as a career.
 
This topic has wandered far off course. However....

I understand the reserves being unhappy at the way they are treated, both by Scheduling and the really senior folks. But last I knew we were talking mostly in terms of airlines that are incorportaed in the United States and the United States has laws concerning age discrimination. The airlines and the unions also protect seniority. So the senior folks have earned the option to choose to bid, and likely hold, whatever lines they choose and that includes Trans-Atlantic. Be honest, in order to be a junior lineholder at East you have to be old enough to not be the pretty young person that the airlines of old used to have on their international routes.

Also, next time a FF gripes at you about the attractiveness of the FA's flying Trans-Atlantic, tell him that SQ 25 flies daily from JFK to FRA. If physical attractiveness is that important to that person, they won't mind not flying nonstop.
 
sky high states: Geez, you flew overseas. I LIVED THERE. And began my career flying International. Call that limited?
Throw people under the bus? Isnt that what you did when you AGREED to work for lower wages at MidAtlantic? Or was that career advancing???

You know why we get into it, so often? You hate Pittsburgh, Pittsburghers, you insult your own colleagues, state the union is useless, badmouth just about everyone in the company on this board, have a negative attitude (sureeeeeeeee, it's only on the board) and when someone sets you straight, like Pitbull has so many times, you never, ever apologize. It's always met with silence. But, you spout these work ethics of yours. LOL.
As far as attitudes, its NOT a senior issue.....it's SYSTEMWIDE. Every employee group! Every seniority level. East AND West. That you constantly point fingers at the senior group is insulting, ignorant and prior for the course with you.

I know, I know, you would never admit wrong, so, I'm expecting a witty, insulting retort back.
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You want to know why you get a witty, insulting retort back?

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT READ. The caps are just for you dear.

Let's go through your post one, well, I guess they are paragraphs, at a time.

Worldview is an outlook, or a rather a framework of ideas and beliefs that form an outlook. It's not looking out of your window and seeing Dubai. I too have lived abroad, and while that is something that might have helped form one's worldview, the term itself has nothing to do with international travel or even your sight. I believe that's about fourth grade vocab.

MidAtlantic was loads of fun, paid more than what I make now (as a F/A) and was fantastic for my career. Absolutely. Thank you for asking.

Okay next. I don't hate Pittsburgh, I just don't have a sentimental attachment to it that overrides common sense and industry realities. If that means 'hating' it, then yes, I loathe it. I also 'hate' VCRs, 8-tracks, and rotary phones. The union is useless (maybe not for you?) Pitbull- is she even still posting? I don't remember really talking to her, I'm sure you are PMing her for ideas on how to 'get me' though lol. I would be interested in seeing your examples of me being wrong however.

My negative attitude... it must really show next to you, who's obviously sh*tting rainbows. Your posts are filed with sunshine and light, and must be very inspiring. Too bad we can't find your positive posts... maybe we just can't read them?

Now... let's just do a little review of our conversation here, shall we?

SKY HIGH said: Fact is, young people dont give a crap. They have NO work ethic.

EMBFA said: It has nothing to do with age, it has to do with the company and the attitude of the employees.

SKY HIGH said: SURE IT DOES.

EMBFA said: Now, my point was that quality of service delivery has nothing to do with age or seniority. Yours, from what I gather from your muddled post, is that is does? How so?

SKY HIGH said: Many F/A's came to this company in the late 70's and early 80's because of it's reputation of "taking care of it's employees". That's gone now, that's why many workers are jaded. Pay me less, I'll work less

EMBFA said: While I understand not wanting to go 'above and beyond' for a company that disregards us, I am also not lazy and take pride in my own service, appearance, demeanor, and work ethic. That's for EMBFA, not for US Airways. I'm sorry that you and many of my co-workers don't feel the same way.

SKY HIGH said: That you constantly point fingers at the senior group is insulting, ignorant and prior for the course with you.

Uh... what?

The reason you get my witty and insulting retorts (I would add condescending) is because your posts are so off the wall it's too hard to resist. You can't pick an opinion and stick with it for a 24 hour period. I sincerely hope you are just poorly written or type under the influence (sunshine service?) Do you or don't you feel that age or seniority is a factor in service attitude? It's a simple debate in which you've expressed several, varying opinions.

When you continuously post bizarre rants void of reason, fact, or meaning, retorts are par for the course. I shudder at the American public school system, but that's another topic altogether.
 
The reason you get my witty and insulting retorts (I would add condescending) is because your posts are so off the wall it's too hard to resist.

sky high states: <yawn>....dont WASTE so much space, doll. Your wordy with NO SUBSTANCE.
Witty?.....amusing sometimes, mostly childish.

Let me end with one of YOUR favorite quotes: Bite me!



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MidAtlantic was loads of fun, paid more than what I make now (as a F/A) and was fantastic for my career. Absolutely. Thank you for asking.

sky high states: Aww, your fantasy world came to an END. Your instant SENIORITY did too!
Welcome back to the BOTTOM! :up:

<two snaps up>....<around the world>...<and IN YOUR FACE>



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*takes another bow, feels sorry for people who still use "In Living Color" references*
 
sky high states: Aww, your fantasy world came to an END. Your instant SENIORITY did too!
Welcome back to the BOTTOM! :up:

<two snaps up>....<around the world>...<and IN YOUR FACE>
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:huh: Welcome to no Pittsburgh base and no movement after voting those planes away.. wow
 
Right? We've already established that some people are not the coldest wine on the sunshine tray.
 
Wouldn't it be better to limit the amout of tiime people work here.......perhaps 15 or less years max? It could help make the reserve time less and encourage others to prepare for a caree job.

At McDonalds, very few of their employees think of it as a career.
I guess you don’t remember when stewardess expired somebody give jr work force a history lesson
 
*takes another bow, feels sorry for people who still use "In Living Color" references*

****stopped feeling sorry for the idiot who thinks the senior workforce will VOTE IN anything to get you off reserve**** WONT HAPPEN

<adjusting Tiara>


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I am also not lazy and take pride in my own service, appearance, demeanor, and work ethic. That's for EMBFA, not for US Airways. I'm sorry that you and many of my co-workers don't feel the same way.

sky high states: ISNT THIS YOUR WORK ETHIC? BETTER BE CAREFUL, SOUNDS MORE LIKE A JOB ACTION. :down:

We love our airline and want to provide the safest. most pleasant experience possible. We can do this by carefully following the procedures laid out for us by our great union and company.

Just some ideas! :shock: :lol:

* When scheduling calls you, you have 15 minutes to respond. Use them. You have 90 minutes to get to the airport. Use them. If you get there early, have a brownie at Au Bon Pain until the 90 minutes is up. It's the shortest call out in the industry- use it to it's full advantage!

* On time departures and quick turns are not as important as checking your equiptment. Check it thouroughly, maybe at the same pace as contract negotiations.

* Same for briefings. Read the entire card. Don't hurry through, it's important. Practice monitor and challenge while the agent awaits permission to board.

* Broken galley equiptment is dangerous to crew and passengers. Do not take off with dangerous equiptment.

* A healthy crew is a safe crew. You needs three meals a day, as close to meal times as possible. 30 minute turns are immaterial compared to your personal health. Each of you should get your own food, how are you to know what your co-workers want to eat.

* Even if you are just going from PHL to DCA, you do need potable water. What if you get stuck on the taxiway? Don't leave without it.

* Same for waste. Get it dumped, it is unpleasant and unsanitary.

* Seat dupes are not your problem. SHARES needs to figure it out. Have the captain call customer service. Understaffed? Not your fault. Remember you are not allowed to step off the aircraft.

* Families that are not seated together should be resolved in the boarding area, not onboard. Call customer service.

* You do not need to call scheduling and advise them you're going to go illegal in a few hours. They should be proactive and know this, and already be looking for a replacement crew.

* OPR stands for On Premise Reserve. You don't have to fly the saucer in the crew room, hang out in the airport, A-West is really pretty, or people watch in F. They can call you if they need you, and can wait as you safely make your way back from one part of the premise to another.

* If you are a reserve, if at all possible, don't pick up ETB unless totally necessary. These are your few off days. Tend bar somewhere, get a part time job at a Hallmark store, something easy, any will pay the same or better than ETB trips. Every time you pick one up you are telling the union and the company that the present system is fine, and you are okay with being the blockholder's b*tch. How fun would it be if all reserves refused to pick up ETB for a month.

* Every time you are quick called in the middle of the night for a transatlantic trip, call your union to double check that you are legal. Doesn't have to be your LEC, call the MEC or any member of the negotiating commitee. Your $40 pays for them to be available to you. Call them each and every time. On particularly boring days, call them and have them explain the reserve system in great detail. Call again for a refresher a week later. Be sure they understand the system in and out, and can recite things back to you without looking it up- make sure they are constantly aware of the reserves and the system.

* Be sure to make all announcements in your announcement booklet, regardless of time of day, from Buy In The Sky to whatever other advertising they want you to do. Have your announcement book ready to show upset customers, as well as the email address they can complain to.

* In your arrival announcement, don't say "If you're connecting to a US Airways Express flight..." and direct customers to terminal F. This is a fallacy. Republic Airlines is US Airways Express and those planes are parked at B and C. They should know that thier Express flight could be out of anywhere. The company made it complicated, not you.

* Don't forget to put claims in even if you won't get your guarantee. Someone is being paid to process them rather than upgrade the computer sytem to automatically update itself.

* Always show the boarding video, complete with blue men banging on garbage cans, at an audible volume, regardless of time of day. Again, have email address ready.

* Be sure to do your exit row briefing, verbatim, to every exit customer individually, and demand a verbal response. Rules are rules! Be sure to explain that this is not done on every carrier, but US Airways is requiring us to.

* If you are working A on the Airbus family, be sure to face the customers while preparing thier first class meals. The partition should be more than enough to block the view.

* If you are on a closet/galley disabled aircraft, be sure to put any extra catering supplies on the jetway. Extra is defined as in space meant for customers and thier luggage such as overhead bins and under seats. If you don't have enough snacks, water, or whatnot, simply explain that the storage space is gone because the company wanted to add more seats to the cabin.

* Remind customers that US Airways is a low cost business casual airline, even full fare Envoy Class customers.

Anyone else have any other helpful reminders? :lol:


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