Did Lombardo ok this?
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Overspeed
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AANOTOK,
Just say what you really mean...we are screwed.
This lawsuit has little to do with the members and more to do with political power or lack thereof. Why not push the issue on the NMB ruling about single carrier? Why not prep for the retiree medical arbitration? Why not push the gain sharing grievance? Why not push arbitrating the IAM/TWU association issue? Why?
We as members need to see some action. Based on what the FAs got and APA has on the table, 15% raise is a "gimmee" at the table. We need that money now! Not next year!
If Peterson wants to get re-elected and have political clout get us some good money in our pockets now. Based on the current 591 board's performance I hope to see some new candidates come forward for 591. Miami seems to be getting all the work, maybe their reps will run and make some stuff happen for the system. Somebody new needs to step forward and lead us with some kind of plan. We are going nowhere fast.
Just say what you really mean...we are screwed.
This lawsuit has little to do with the members and more to do with political power or lack thereof. Why not push the issue on the NMB ruling about single carrier? Why not prep for the retiree medical arbitration? Why not push the gain sharing grievance? Why not push arbitrating the IAM/TWU association issue? Why?
We as members need to see some action. Based on what the FAs got and APA has on the table, 15% raise is a "gimmee" at the table. We need that money now! Not next year!
If Peterson wants to get re-elected and have political clout get us some good money in our pockets now. Based on the current 591 board's performance I hope to see some new candidates come forward for 591. Miami seems to be getting all the work, maybe their reps will run and make some stuff happen for the system. Somebody new needs to step forward and lead us with some kind of plan. We are going nowhere fast.
Good Lord I hope your not in a union leadership position. This upcoming union contract is the last opportunity we have to bargain back a large portion of what the TWU helped the company take from us in 2003. Why should We be in a hurry to trade this opportunity away for some quick cash? Funny I don't remember a single snap-back negotiated in 2003 and now the company is making billions. That's how well the TWU fought for us in 2003.
Why not support the guys who are fighting for their members?
Why is there no support from the 514 or the International?
Why can't they fight for the membership?
You guys wonder why the TWU has been hampered with raid issues over the last 30 years when the 514 and the International fears defending and negotiating for their membership.
Instead of playing games why not have a simple vote in which we choose who will defend our best interest. The idea scares the hell out of the International, the company and the NMB.
Why not support the guys who are fighting for their members?
Why is there no support from the 514 or the International?
Why can't they fight for the membership?
You guys wonder why the TWU has been hampered with raid issues over the last 30 years when the 514 and the International fears defending and negotiating for their membership.
Instead of playing games why not have a simple vote in which we choose who will defend our best interest. The idea scares the hell out of the International, the company and the NMB.
Overspeed, Realityck PLEASE PAY ATTENTION:
FWAA please read all the legal stuff and give your professional opinion.
By clicking on the links below you will all see that the results are now out with the "current" AIR21 case I have been talking about. The first link is A brief from our union's ALR, a mere break down of the results. The second link is the Federal Judges Ruling. Yes it did in fact go to a Federal Judge, as some here have said it will never make it there. Also I would like to note that this all started back in July of 2014 and is now settled in Jan 2015. A mere 6-7 months not years upon years as some have said it would take with the AA/mechanics filing.
Another note, this case below and the filing of AA's mechanics case are DIRECTLY related. Please take the time to read thru it all. It is a win-win for all AMT's out there performing their duties for the flight safety of all passengers as well as signing off an "airworthy aircraft" back to service. This is the case I have been talking about and you can now read the results. A great outcome for all AMT's everywhere that feel or get intimidated by their employer not to take aircraft out of service for safety of flight write ups. If these links do not work, pls, pls, by all means go to www.AMFA11.com and read all the documents related to this Air21 case as it is directly related to the very same case you guys are facing at your airline. And BTW, Seham is the attorney that won this case for us and is the attorney that filed for you guys. I would like to take this time to thank the mechanic for pushing forward and bringing this case out, I would also like to thank Mr. Seham, AMFA local 11 ALR, AMFA National as well as all witnesses for an OUTSTANDING job well done for this case coming to the final verdict that has come. And I still ask, why did the mechanics of AA represented by the TWU go outside their union and hire Lee Seham (AMFA attorney) to file and represent the mechanics of AA for this case? Just speaks volumes guys, volumes. Sorry for rambling, here it is, FWAA pls give your opinion and possibly a dummy breakdown for some to understand;
FWAA please read all the legal stuff and give your professional opinion.
By clicking on the links below you will all see that the results are now out with the "current" AIR21 case I have been talking about. The first link is A brief from our union's ALR, a mere break down of the results. The second link is the Federal Judges Ruling. Yes it did in fact go to a Federal Judge, as some here have said it will never make it there. Also I would like to note that this all started back in July of 2014 and is now settled in Jan 2015. A mere 6-7 months not years upon years as some have said it would take with the AA/mechanics filing.
Another note, this case below and the filing of AA's mechanics case are DIRECTLY related. Please take the time to read thru it all. It is a win-win for all AMT's out there performing their duties for the flight safety of all passengers as well as signing off an "airworthy aircraft" back to service. This is the case I have been talking about and you can now read the results. A great outcome for all AMT's everywhere that feel or get intimidated by their employer not to take aircraft out of service for safety of flight write ups. If these links do not work, pls, pls, by all means go to www.AMFA11.com and read all the documents related to this Air21 case as it is directly related to the very same case you guys are facing at your airline. And BTW, Seham is the attorney that won this case for us and is the attorney that filed for you guys. I would like to take this time to thank the mechanic for pushing forward and bringing this case out, I would also like to thank Mr. Seham, AMFA local 11 ALR, AMFA National as well as all witnesses for an OUTSTANDING job well done for this case coming to the final verdict that has come. And I still ask, why did the mechanics of AA represented by the TWU go outside their union and hire Lee Seham (AMFA attorney) to file and represent the mechanics of AA for this case? Just speaks volumes guys, volumes. Sorry for rambling, here it is, FWAA pls give your opinion and possibly a dummy breakdown for some to understand;
- An overview of the just-released AIR21 decision
- The Administrative Law Judge’s (ALJ) Summary Decision Ruling,
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Overspeed said:
What Happened to your other view?
For years you claim the AFL-CIO affiliation gives us political clout and power.
Why aren't seeing any results of that so-called power and clout?
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TWU informer,
Oh AFL-CIO does give us clout. The comment was about maybe the lawsuit by 591 will get the same judge as those other cases pending. The locals keep postponing the cases maybe because they are more concerned about lawsuits and their ability to get UBP.
And how much clout is AMFA exerting at SWA for the last three years? The "professional negotiators" aren't doing any better than the blue collar negotiators at SWA.
Oh AFL-CIO does give us clout. The comment was about maybe the lawsuit by 591 will get the same judge as those other cases pending. The locals keep postponing the cases maybe because they are more concerned about lawsuits and their ability to get UBP.
And how much clout is AMFA exerting at SWA for the last three years? The "professional negotiators" aren't doing any better than the blue collar negotiators at SWA.
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So why doesn't militant Lombardo come out (or one of his mouthpieces) and tell his members what the hold is and why the arbitration was canceled. If the wanting the APFA going first story has any merit, shame on the TWU.Overspeed said:
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All the denial of summary judgment does is allow the complaint to go forward. SWA had asked that it be dismissed without a hearing and it was not. It was deemed to have merit worth going forward. That is all. Summary judgments are always asked for, but not normally awarded unless the complaint is frivolous on its face.swamt said:
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