Did Lombardo ok this?

[700UW]

They are not negotiating.

 

[CMH_GSE]

Prediction : the association is already negotiating a contract and when the NMB comes down and says the association is our union, the association will have a very good TA waiting for us before we have a chance to get all upset.

No reason for the "association" to negotiate anything. They won't get the gig unless they can produce enough cards for a required "showing of interest".
At least that's the way the rules read.

TWU: over 50% of the mechanic group under contract. Showing of interest = check.
IAM: less than 50% of the mechanic group under contract. Showing of interest= nope.
Association: a few guys that says it's cool. Showing of interest= you have to be kidding.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

No reason for the "association" to negotiate anything. They won't get the gig unless they can produce enough cards for a required "showing of interest".
At least that's the way the rules read.

TWU: over 50% of the mechanic group under contract. Showing of interest = check.
IAM: less than 50% of the mechanic group under contract. Showing of interest= nope.
Association: a few guys that says it's cool. Showing of interest= you have to be kidding.

Don't bet on the TWU having over 50% interest.  The only ones I have come in contact with who are in favor of it are the local officers and the Title 2 guys.  

 

[bigjets]

I don't think the FAs or pilots took votes, I believe the union boards just decided which Union they would go with, but I wouldn't be surprised if the twu gets to decide for us.

I hope I'm just being cynical, and I would vote AMFA over no Union if given the option.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

I think if the alliance ever had to get cards signed they would find it very difficult to get them.  

 

[toroshark]

Prediction : the association is already negotiating a contract and when the NMB comes down and says the association is our union, the association will have a very good TA waiting for us before we have a chance to get all upset.

prediction if your prediction is correct. Everyone is lumped into the IAMPF scam!

 

[bigjets]

Absolutely, that way the unions have more money to play with.

 

[CMH_GSE]

Don't bet on the TWU having over 50% interest.  The only ones I have come in contact with who are in favor of it are the local officers and the Title 2 guys.

I was only speaking in terms of official "showing of interest" in the eyes of the NMB.
That's all that matters for now, I never said it was my preferred option.

We currently have a contract with the TWU, and we number over 50% of the mechanic ranks, that's the standard.
The Association has no such contract with anyone,see the difference?

 

[NYer]

I was only speaking in terms of official "showing of interest" in the eyes of the NMB.
That's all that matters for now, I never said it was my preferred option.

We currently have a contract with the TWU, and we number over 50% of the mechanic ranks, that's the standard.
The Association has no such contract with anyone,see the difference?

 
Except that the IAM and TWU jointly filed for the Association.

 

[bigjets]

 
Except that the IAM and TWU jointly filed for the Association.

 
The association is a done deal, the two unions don't have to ask are permission, they have full authority over our opinion "officially"
The NMB is just deciding how the non-union employees will be represented. 

 

[CMH_GSE]

Except that the IAM and TWU jointly filed for the Association.

When, exactly, did we agree to a Joint contract with both IAM and TWU?
I don't believe it's cut dried a done deal. I'll agree to disagree with you on that.

 

[IORFA]

I don't think the FAs or pilots took votes, I believe the union boards just decided which Union they would go with, but I wouldn't be surprised if the twu gets to decide for us.
I hope I'm just being cynical, and I would vote AMFA over no Union if given the option.

AFA and USAPA gave in and agreed that APFA and APA would become the unions representing their members. No vote needed. Hence why we both have JCBA's and progress.

 

[Vortilon]

AFA and USAPA gave in and agreed that APFA and APA would become the unions representing their members. No vote needed. Hence why we both have JCBA's and progress.

Not quite the same thing.  In addition to that, The TWU stated that the membership would have a vote to say if they wanted this unholy alliance.  

 

[Rogallo]

 
Except that the IAM and TWU jointly filed for the Association.

 
Then they jointly need to be kicked to the curb.....democratically!

 

[NYer]

 
Then they jointly need to be kicked to the curb.....democratically!

 
Get the cards signed. It's all in your hands.