Well, hold on ..maybe the poster meant that this is a fairly new ruling, and that any "new" call signs have to be the name of the airline. No . .wait again .. Virgin America=REDWOODYes...you could be correct...OH WAIT:
British Airways..........SPEEDBIRD
Air Lingus.................SHAMROCK
Atlas........................GIANT
China Airlines...........DYNASTY
There's more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/hub/A698231
It's time to put this crap behind us. The NEW US Airways home office is in the Valley of the Sun. Practice Cactus.
Call sign decision?
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cactusboy53
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Had a VA pilot on JS the other day. Asked what the call sign is. He responded REDWOOD.
Redwood?? I replied. How'd they come up with that?
He said he wasn't sure except that he mentioned that the call sign may be a result of the question: What do you get when you have sexual intercourse with a virgin??
Mtnman928
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Yes...you could be correct...OH WAIT:
British Airways..........SPEEDBIRD
Air Lingus.................SHAMROCK
Atlas........................GIANT
China Airlines...........DYNASTY
There's more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/hub/A698231
It's time to put this crap behind us. The NEW US Airways home office is in the Valley of the Sun. Practice Cactus.
FTW, I really don't care what they call the airline but in the examples you give, I believe they have been around for a long time. So if they allowed the the above mentioned to be grandfathered, they might require all new flights to indicate the actual name of the airline.
MM
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does anyone honestly know how long the FAA gave us or how soon the switch over will be, rumor from pilots was by YEARS END it needs to be switched to a combined call sign.
Piedmont1984
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Said the fellow experiencing deja vu and alzeimers at the same time, "I can't remember if I have been here before."
N965VJ
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Classy post; really shows your true character.
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Had a VA pilot on JS the other day. Asked what the call sign is. He responded REDWOOD.
Redwood?? I replied. How'd they come up with that?
He said he wasn't sure except that he mentioned that the call sign may be a result of the question: What do you get when you have sexual intercourse with a virgin??
The VA airline home offices are based in Burlingame, CA. That's right next to Redwood City. I guess Burlingame would have been a bit odd and hard to spew out over ATC. http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/articl...5-19-07-b18virg
Try again ..see the reference to Virgin America call sign above ..
N965VJ
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I can understand that the locker room humor is not your style.
However, making light of tragic events is truly offensive. Many of us, myself included, had friends on those flights.
Sorry, I didnt take the post the same way. I did not take it to mean tragic crashes but more that HP had better stats. If I offended you let me apologize. We on the west, have by the grace of God, never had to endure or live thru your tragedies but I never intended to make little of your losses. My fault for not comprehending the intent. Mama
Future330Capt
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Don't you mean by the grace of God and our rookie pilots?
This is the rule on Telephony Designators that I dug up last year for one of our Pilots
http://www.faa.gov/Atpubs/CNT/1-4.htm
1-4-2. CRITERIA.
a.
A three-letter identifier is registered only for those aircraft operating agencies and other aircraft servicing companies which, in the opinion of the State of jurisdiction, require a specific three-letter identifier. They are assigned on a worldwide basis to an aircraft operating or servicing company for commercial domestic/international operations. ICAO three-letter company identifiers may be used on the international telecommunications service when deemed advantageous for air traffic control and operational purposes.
b.
As stated in ICAO Document 8585, telephony designators ''should be pronounceable and suitable phonetically in at least one of the following languages: English, French, or Spanish.'' Such telephony designators should, preferably, resemble the name of the ''aircraft operating companies and/or servicing authorities.'' The telephony designator should consist of not more than two words and three syllables. This eliminates the amount of verbiage created on-line contributing to similar sounding telephony designator confusion. Letters are not assigned as telephony designators; however, companies which have previously been assigned letters as telephony designators will remain.
Also see
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examine...nspectors/8400/
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examine...nt%208585%20%22
The US Air call sign more closely fits the rule. Who knows what to believe as to how it stands other than as previously posted (paraphrasing) It will be Cactus, but for now we are using both. I didn't see anything official except what the Company said, so who knows if they are still hashing it out with ICAO.
http://www.faa.gov/Atpubs/CNT/1-4.htm
1-4-2. CRITERIA.
a.
A three-letter identifier is registered only for those aircraft operating agencies and other aircraft servicing companies which, in the opinion of the State of jurisdiction, require a specific three-letter identifier. They are assigned on a worldwide basis to an aircraft operating or servicing company for commercial domestic/international operations. ICAO three-letter company identifiers may be used on the international telecommunications service when deemed advantageous for air traffic control and operational purposes.
b.
As stated in ICAO Document 8585, telephony designators ''should be pronounceable and suitable phonetically in at least one of the following languages: English, French, or Spanish.'' Such telephony designators should, preferably, resemble the name of the ''aircraft operating companies and/or servicing authorities.'' The telephony designator should consist of not more than two words and three syllables. This eliminates the amount of verbiage created on-line contributing to similar sounding telephony designator confusion. Letters are not assigned as telephony designators; however, companies which have previously been assigned letters as telephony designators will remain.
Also see
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examine...nspectors/8400/
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examine...nt%208585%20%22
The US Air call sign more closely fits the rule. Who knows what to believe as to how it stands other than as previously posted (paraphrasing) It will be Cactus, but for now we are using both. I didn't see anything official except what the Company said, so who knows if they are still hashing it out with ICAO.
