Call sign decision?

[AWA320]

why not change the call sign to "heritage" or "phoenix". i think phoenix is already taken but. i haven't heard anyone say heritage.

Absolutly not! What we had to go thru just to get the callsign!! The US military has thousands of callsigns blocked and when AWA started they went to get the callsign Cactus but the military had it on their list of names. It took an act of congress for us to get that callsign. The Senator for AZ had to go and fight on our behalf for us to even use it.

Now I agree a callsign is not much of an issue but you would think that the east folk would understand and cut us some slack but I guess that too would take an act of congress...

 

[PA18]

Not to take any sides in this insignificant rant but it does make sense to keep the call sign the same, after all the airline is STILL called USAirways isn't it? And yes, there is "pride" and "heritage" associated with the name of an airline that's been around for 50-60 years.

Actually, the US Airways name only dates back to 1996. (I don't know why Wolf bothered to change it at all, since everybody, including the media, still call it "USAir".)

And the USAir name only goes back to 1979, when it changed from Allegheny.

 

[Whatnow?]

My mistake....I guess I like many others still consider this "USAir".....maybe they should have created a "new" callsign for the new "so-called" Airline.

 

[allstrike]

So your same argument could be used in support of a Cactus call sign... bite your tongue and be proud of your new airline and one of the parts that made it what it is today.

I really think the whole callsign debate is petty. They should just flip a coin and be done with it.

I agree,the AWA symbol has a lasting place in the heritage circle.Also as you said before about our individual past,we come from twice the airlines in that circle also.This could be the most diverse airline in history.The survivors ( the real survivors are those of us left )
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Keeping the call sign cactus could be like saying,hey dont take the bullet out it may start the bleeding again.Leave it in they will live with it.
Or take the bullet out the bleeding will stop soon enough before they die,we can cauterize.Its best not to keep the slug in it could move.

It could go both ways,If I was becoming AWA Id say,Cactus it is,hey I like the callsign.And you should all be proud to have been part of it,this is my no merger pains lets be the airline people we are view,I think its the best and most healthy.If we are the true pro's we all are this place will be great.

 

[88 B.T.D.]

It seems to be non-pilots making an issue of this, with the exception of one rebel-rouser 320 pilot that we know. The majority don't care because we really do have more important pressing issues. The best argument for Cactus- Less syllables. Against- ATC will initially be confused when looking at the Airline Code (but now that we're already on one certificate.....)
Can we just let this issue bleed to death until a decision is made?

 

[Piedmont1984]

We should compromise and use part of both callsigns. Use the US from Cactus - and the Air from USAir. What do you think?

 

[allstrike]

We should compromise and use part of both callsigns. Use the US from Cactus - and the Air from USAir. What do you think?

 

[hula-flyguy]

We should compromise and use part of both callsigns. Use the US from Cactus - and the Air from USAir. What do you think?
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I dont have an opinion either way since it doesnt directly affect me.....but THAT was funny!

 

[exB717Flyer]

I would have no problem with a brand new callsign, preferably with only two syllables. Because many pilots pronouce their callsign "USairs" I can never support its use. It's like fingernails on a blackboard to my ear. Same thing goes for those who say "Deltas".

 

[Piedmont1984]

I would have no problem with a brand new callsign, preferably with only two syllables. Because many pilots pronouce their callsign "USairs" I can never support its use. It's like fingernails on a blackboard to my ear. Same thing goes for those who say "Deltas".

I do it without intending to, not often but occasionally. Don't know why. Perhaps it just lends itself to an "s" on the end when I need a split second to think what to say next. Kind of like an "uh" in the middle of a sentence.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Like Yogi Berra said: "It's deja vu all over again" as far as this entire thread goes. We beat this horse to death at least once with a lengthy thread several months ago.

 

[exB717Flyer]

I do it without intending to, not often but occasionally. Don't know why. Perhaps it just lends itself to an "s" on the end when I need a split second to think what to say next. Kind of like an "uh" in the middle of a sentence.

Thank you for being the first to ever provide an explanation. I have no right to ask a favor of you but nevertheless, please do your best to not do it anymore.

 

[2BorNot2B]

'Tis true ... this issue has run the gauntlet. I have read all the posts, and from my retirement seat I have considered all the opinions expressed. The one thing I have noted is that no one has mentioned the Visual aspect of the Callsign.

In my "time" I found that the use of the name on the aircraft as the callsign gave me added insight to my operational surroundings. Simply put, particularly in ground operations, if a controller said " PanAm, Eastern, Northeast, Mohawk ..." or whomever, the aircraft involved might easily be identified. I always felt comfortable with that. Never having flown International, I cannot imagine what it must be like trying to match "Vanity"callsigns to the hundreds of Airlines out there. The same certainly must be true for the Tower Controllers. They are, afterall, looking at the aircraft. It is indeed a non issue for Radar Controllers, that I must agree.

Just my thoughts .......

2B

 

[Junebug172]

Start trying to be proud of who we are and maybe it will start to show all around

ya, your avatar really shows your "pride."

 

[cactusboy53]

Please correct me if I am wrong but I thought ICAO or the EU said they couldn't use Cactus but had to use the name of the airline as a call sign. Anyone know for sure?

MM

Yes...you could be correct...OH WAIT:

British Airways..........SPEEDBIRD
Air Lingus.................SHAMROCK
Atlas........................GIANT
China Airlines...........DYNASTY

There's more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/hub/A698231

It's time to put this crap behind us. The NEW US Airways home office is in the Valley of the Sun. Practice Cactus.