Beef and Beer

[700UW]

No charges have been filed against the 22 so please tell me how they are criminals?

 

[delldude]

what kind of beer are they having?

 

[careerfurloughee]

A very big deal. Could mean having a home or being homeless for some...who knows.......

What about the people they attacked? Who was going to pay for their homes if they had been seriously injured?

 

[TheWatcher]

PA has one of the highest unemployment benifits in the country ... Wounder if this played with these 22? Timeoff with pay, union will fight for my job.. Get to beat up people who are outnumbered 5 to 1... Sign me up..

Tell me something, were black helicopters involved too?

Wait, how is it that someone should be able to profit from the commission of a crime or tort? A bad act was committed, people rightfully lost their jobs and you seem to be saying that taxpayers should support this kind of behavior through tax monies or other means to support these thugs?

Stop overlooking the fact that the so called thugs were tax payers as well. The few taxed pennies obtained from unemployment is hardly profitable.

What about the people they attacked? Who was going to pay for their homes if they had been seriously injured?

The people that were attacked were fired also?

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Regarding Unemployment Insurance, it is usually never given for an involuntary termination for cause. In a layoff, its no problem, but in this case, they wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting UI.

As for having an event to raise money for these guys, hey, its a free country, but in my opinion, doing this is an obscenity of bad taste and bad judgement.

I hope that the 22 thugs are now realizing what it is like to work in the real world, one where beating the snot out of another over a work dispute is WRONG, and no one is gonna cover your ass for doing such a completely wrong and heinous act.

Big mistake by the union, they only reinforced the view that most of the real world has of unions, ie: goons, slackers, thugs and corrupt mobbed up goombas.

 

[muircross]

Regarding Unemployment Insurance, it is usually never given for an involuntary termination for cause. In a layoff, its no problem, but in this case, they wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting UI.

As for having an event to raise money for these guys, hey, its a free country, but in my opinion, doing this is an obscenity of bad taste and bad judgement.

I hope that the 22 thugs are now realizing what it is like to work in the real world, one where beating the snot out of another over a work dispute is WRONG, and no one is gonna cover your ass for doing such a completely wrong and heinous act.

Big mistake by the union, they only reinforced the view that most of the real world has of unions, ie: goons, slackers, thugs and corrupt mobbed up goombas.

You know, It sounds like you actually believe what you read. Goombas, really.

 

[traderjake]

No charges have been filed against the 22 so please tell me how they are criminals?

What they did was criminal. They have not been charged yet.

The final verdict is not in but the overwhelming odds are that they would not have been terminated and denied unemployment compensation if they were innocent.

 

[700UW]

It cannot be criminal if they are not charged nor convicted.

US always terminates people, many people terminated get their jobs back.

And many people who file unemployment who were terminated get their request denied until an appeal is filed.

 

[traderjake]

Was Richard Nixon charged with a crime?

Was O.J. Simpson convicted in the criminal trial?

I guess you believe they're innocent too.

 

[700UW]

Under the american justice system they are not criminals.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

You know, It sounds like you actually believe what you read. Goombas, really.

Have you ever worked in the real world?

You know, the one where your sucess is tied to your personal performance, not seniority or union status.

I got almost 20 years in the HR field and the highest certifications that go with it. This crap the union guys did (sorry 700, but the evidence is overwhelming) is criminal, and not only should they get no unemployment, they should get jail, and be put on a don't fly list for a number of years.



Yeah, they are no necked thugs and goombas. (yep, that is name calling, but no less than when your side trots out the tired 'scab' moniker.

 

[TheWatcher]

Have you ever worked in the real world?

You know, the one where your sucess is tied to your personal performance, not seniority or union status.

I got almost 20 years in the HR field and the highest certifications that go with it. This crap the union guys did (sorry 700, but the evidence is overwhelming) is criminal, and not only should they get no unemployment, they should get jail, and be put on a don't fly list for a number of years.
Yeah, they are no necked thugs and goombas. (yep, that is name calling, but no less than when your side trots out the tired 'scab' moniker.

This one is so loaded, im not going to touch it. "Real world"...........

 

[muircross]

Have you ever worked in the real world?

You know, the one where your sucess is tied to your personal performance, not seniority or union status.

I got almost 20 years in the HR field and the highest certifications that go with it. This crap the union guys did (sorry 700, but the evidence is overwhelming) is criminal, and not only should they get no unemployment, they should get jail, and be put on a don't fly list for a number of years.
Yeah, they are no necked thugs and goombas. (yep, that is name calling, but no less than when your side trots out the tired 'scab' moniker.

Gee, I wonder what courses must be taken for certification? Union Busting 101, Pension Theft 201? Here's a prediction for you HP, no jail, job reinstatement,no election (FSA),crow for dinner for you.

regards,

 

[US Express-PSA Agent]

Under the american justice system they are not criminals.

Criminal charges are filed at the request of the complaintent. If the victim cannot file charges, the D.A will represent the people and proceed accordingly. This is how the Criminal Justice System works.

A criminal does not have to be someone who has been charged or arrested. If someone steals your car and they are never caught, that does not make them any less a criminal.

Assault is a crime, period. Pre-meditated assualt is especially heinous because it may not only a be crime of passion but also a crime of vicious intent for the purpose of causing harm or injury, either mentally or physically.

The "22" former employees went to other union's meeting with the obvious intent of at least causing a disturbance. When you rent a hotel room or even a house, you have a resonable expectation of privacy and safety. When that expectation has been violated, a law has been broken. Breaking and Entering charges could also be filed against the "22".

Did you also notice that the hotel has not filed charges for the distruction of property? The case against these "22" former employees is still being made.

Civil charges may also still be filed against the "22" for financial compensation, ie. hospital bills, property damage, etc...

Un-employement benefits are for those persons who have lost their jobs at no fault of their own. The termination of the "22" came at their own hands. US Airways nor any other outside force had anything to do with this.

I hope you can appreciate the fact that these folks knowlingly and willfully broke the law.

The "22" have only themselves to blame for their current situation.

On a personal note. Quick tempered, hot headed people who appear to have a serious disreguard for law and order have no business working on or around aircraft. Our passengers and fellow employees deserve better than that.

 

[700UW]

The DA can file charges regardless of the alledged victim(s).

Where have you been?