Beef and Beer
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barbeetantrums
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they apparently violated company rules and conduct policy which are termination offenses.the accused also have UC appeal procedures....which they should apply for as they have not been found guilty of anything to this point...but if they were at a later time UC would make them pay it back.
they can collect if denied under the casual employment option.a little hassle but works everytime...
did the accusused previously come from a beef and beer prior to the twu rally?
Boo friggin Hoo.
Be a good employee and don't get your ### fired for being stoopid.
And if you do, then go get another job or get educated and quit being a drain on the system.
No sympathy here.
ChrisUS
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yeah...probably seemed like a good idea at the time after a few brews i'd bet.
lets shake 'em up a little,teach 'em a lesson
Yeah, a case of "beer muscles". :down:
PITbull
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they apparently violated company rules and conduct policy which are termination offenses.the accused also have UC appeal procedures....which they should apply for as they have not been found guilty of anything to this point...but if they were at a later time UC would make them pay it back.
they can collect if denied under the casual employment option.a little hassle but works everytime...
did the accusused previously come from a beef and beer prior to the twu rally?
If these guys win an appeal, doesn't matter if they lose the grievance and do not get reinstated, they won't have to pay UC benefits back.
I know this reg intimately.
Most folks get terminated for "just cause" according to the employer. To be denied unemployment is for "GROSS misconduct", and it is very specific in the regs. The company would emphatically have to prove gross misconduct; not allegation.
This needs to be appealed by the 22.
With regard to UC benfits being paid by the meployee, they are in PA. Its a line item on each payroll statement you get "PAI". For those states that have a statute that if unemployment reaches a certain % in that state, than all workers will pay in that state until the % of unemployed goes back to the levels in the particular state statute.
In PA, this statute had commenced in 2003. But recently I haven't seen it in my recent W2's. The employer, on the other hand pays UC benfits insurance. All employers who are for profit with 50 or more employees must.
PITbull
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100% correct. You can appeal a second time, and at that point, I would hire an attorney.
I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, here, and it didn't seem to get much of a response. I must be on quite a few 'ignore' lists.
How about the other guy going around selling two hot dogs, a soda, and a bag of chips for $5.00, with the proceeds going towards the terminated.
PITbull
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I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, here, and it didn't seem to get much of a response. I must be on quite a few 'ignore' lists.
How about the other guy going around selling two hot dogs, a soda, and a bag of chips for $5.00, with the proceeds going towards the terminated.
They must really believe in the defense of the 22.
PHL FSA have always supported fellow agents when they needed to, especially if you were well liked. I can't even begin to count the number of beef and beers, 50/50 raffles, and cards (with cash donations) that have floated around over the years. Almost all were very worthy of the assistance. We had one agent who needed to spend a significant time away from work because of a family members illness and a collection was taken up for him every payday so he was able to be with his family and take care of the situation. This went on for over a year, and most paydays the amount collected exceeded what he would have earned at work by a mile. Management actually showed some heart during this time too, which was nice.
Support for these 22 just isn't there like it may have been a few years ago. Pay and benefit cuts coupled with the fact that some of these Union Officers have rubbed a lot of FSA the wrong way over the past couple of years doesn't make for successful donation campaigns. You'll always have a small group pushing for cash though.
Edit: Forgot to add the fact that they guy selling the "dogs for thugs" is just a case of one hand washing the other. Before the FSA took control of LL1776 the Officers would have pizza at the end of the monthly meeting. Once the FSA took control of LL1776 (Jan 2002) pizza was out and a nicer spread was put out after the meetings. Guess who got to cater the meetings? You got it, Mr. Hot Dog man. I will say, good stuff though.
hp_fa
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Wait, how is it that someone should be able to profit from the commission of a crime or tort? A bad act was committed, people rightfully lost their jobs and you seem to be saying that taxpayers should support this kind of behavior through tax monies or other means to support these thugs?
RowUnderDCA
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nor did they count on security cameras in the hotel. Criminal or not, against company rules or not, I wonder how many of those folks would have even been there had someone told them... 'oh by the way, your face is going to be recorded on hotel security video while your in the hallway, or maybe even in the conference room.' ??
