April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Metroyet]

I would counter with...."check your W2 for the last 27 yrs" while I have been with the company, but it wouldn't be fair since you were still in High School during a large portion of it. And that's ignoring the low wages that AW is famous for.

breeze

How's it feel after 27 years to have your TOS captains earning about 15k a year less than FOs at real airlines? Quite the stellar career. I've never received a w2 from AMW so I have nothing to check.

 

[mrbreeze]

I've never received a w2 from AMW so I have nothing to check.

And you have no voice in this matter. Like I said, you're one screwed up dude! Get a life, punk!
breeze

 

[Phoenix]

Check out your W2 for the last 5 tax years. Need any more proof of USAPA causing you problems? Btw, you can stop decorating each post like a ore-teen girl with emoticons.

Is it not AOL that fought against pay parity and claims victory in that regard. Fake union, organized crime, indeed.

 

[cleardirect]

Is it not AOL that fought against pay parity and claims victory in that regard. Fake union, organized crime, indeed.

Get your facts right. Leonidas had nothing to do with opposing pay parity. Leonidas is not a union. Only after you easties ran from your obligations of JCBA did the west ALPA tell Parker one time.

If you have a problem with you not getting pay parity blame the right people. Usapa, east pilots and Doug Parker.

Usapa has been in charge for 6 years why have they not gotten you pay parity? Parker told you multiple times that the way to parity was a contract. Why was usapa not able to get a contract?

Look in the mirror for the reason you did not get parity. Besides you guys said you were willing to stay on LOA 93 forever to stop the Nicolau. Parker took you at your word. You made a choice. LOA 93 or parity.

 

[mrbreeze]

the west ALPA tell Parker one time.

Some smart move on the West pilot's part.....standing up to pay parity instead of trying to work things out. Drawing that line in the sand and proclaiming "Nic or nothing" is where the poison lies.

Nice try on the spin, Sheldon, but you didn't tell the whole story, as usual.

breeze

 

[cleardirect]

Some smart move on the West pilot's part.....standing up to pay parity instead of trying to work things out. Drawing that line in the sand and proclaiming "Nic or nothing" is where the poison lies.

Nice try on the spin, Sheldon, but you didn't tell the whole story, as usual.

breeze

What part of you worthless punks walked away from your obligation are you missing? You walked away from arbitration and you walked away from negotiating a JCBA.

You were demanding separate ops. Demanding pay parity and separate ops was not going to happen.

You never have explained why usapa after 6 years did not get you pay parity. Blame your union not the west.

You easties said DOH or nothing. Parker gave you nothing.

 

[nevergiveup]

What part of you worthless punks walked away from your obligation are you missing? You walked away from arbitration and you walked away from negotiating a JCBA.

You were demanding separate ops. Demanding pay parity and separate ops was not going to happen.

You never have explained why usapa after 6 years did not get you pay parity. Blame your union not the west.

You easties said DOH or nothing. Parker gave you nothing.

Interesting how such anger prevents logical thinking.

 

[mrbreeze]

What part of you worthless punks walked away from your obligation are you missing? You walked away from arbitration and you walked away from negotiating a JCBA.

You were demanding separate ops. Demanding pay parity and separate ops was not going to happen.

You never have explained why usapa after 6 years did not get you pay parity. Blame your union not the west.

You easties said DOH or nothing. Parker gave you nothing.

The East pilots took the only reasonable option that you greedy punks left us. Our West ALPA "brothers" only had incest on their minds and that wasn't gonna happen. Again, you poisoned the well.

Whine all you want, it doesn't change the facts.
breeze

 

[Claxon]

What part of you worthless punks walked away from your obligation are you missing? You walked away from arbitration and you walked away from negotiating a JCBA.

You were demanding separate ops. Demanding pay parity and separate ops was not going to happen.

You never have explained why usapa after 6 years did not get you pay parity. Blame your union not the west.

You easties said DOH or nothing. Parker gave you nothing.

Sheldon is upset these days. Nic or nothing gave him exactly that. Nothing.
Even Scott Kirby told him...."NO"

 

[cleardirect]

The East pilots took the only reasonable option that you greedy punks left us. Our West ALPA "brothers" only had incest on their minds and that wasn't gonna happen. Again, you poisoned the well.

Whine all you want, it doesn't change the facts.
breeze

Get the facts straight.

Walking away from your responsibilities and deals is not a reasonable option.

It was the east that complained to ALPA national demanding something.

It was the east the sued the west.

It was the east that walked demanded a change to final and binding arbitration
It was the east that walked away from JCBA negotiations.
It was the east the demanded separate ops.
It was the east that called the west rookies.

If you want to know who poisoned the well look in the mirror. At least take responsibility for your actions.

The west followed the rules. Made our case and wants to live up to our deal.

The only thing the west did was refused to cave to your bullying and childish demands.

 

[nevergiveup]

Get the facts straight.

Walking away from your responsibilities and deals is not a reasonable option.

It was the east that complained to ALPA national demanding something.

It was the east the sued the west.

It was the east that walked demanded a change to final and binding arbitration
It was the east that walked away from JCBA negotiations.
It was the east the demanded separate ops.
It was the east that called the west rookies.

If you want to know who poisoned the well look in the mirror. At least take responsibility for your actions.

The west followed the rules. Made our case and wants to live up to our deal.

The only thing the west did was refused to cave to your bullying and childish demands.

Should have gone for the fence! Greed always gets the best of us!

 

[mrbreeze]

Get the facts straight.

Walking away from your responsibilities and deals is not a reasonable option.

It was the east that complained to ALPA national demanding something.

It was the east the sued the west.

It was the east that walked demanded a change to final and binding arbitration
It was the east that walked away from JCBA negotiations.
It was the east the demanded separate ops.
It was the east that called the west rookies.

If you want to know who poisoned the well look in the mirror. At least take responsibility for your actions.

The west followed the rules. Made our case and wants to live up to our deal.

The only thing the west did was refused to cave to your bullying and childish demands.

And why did all this happen? The NIC is a windfall, which is totally against the merger policy. PERIOD!

breeze

 

[Phoenix]

Get your facts right. Leonidas had nothing to do with opposing pay parity. Leonidas is not a union. Only after you easties ran from your obligations of JCBA did the west ALPA tell Parker one time.

If you have a problem with you not getting pay parity blame the right people. Usapa, east pilots and Doug Parker.

Usapa has been in charge for 6 years why have they not gotten you pay parity? Parker told you multiple times that the way to parity was a contract. Why was usapa not able to get a contract?

Look in the mirror for the reason you did not get parity. Besides you guys said you were willing to stay on LOA 93 forever to stop the Nicolau. Parker took you at your word. You made a choice. LOA 93 or parity.

Thou dost protest too much.

 

[snapthis]

Get the facts straight.

Walking away from your responsibilities and deals is not a reasonable option.

It was the east that complained to ALPA national demanding something.

It was the east the sued the west.

It was the east that walked demanded a change to final and binding arbitration
It was the east that walked away from JCBA negotiations.
It was the east the demanded separate ops.
It was the east that called the west rookies.

If you want to know who poisoned the well look in the mirror. At least take responsibility for your actions.

The west followed the rules. Made our case and wants to live up to our deal.

The only thing the west did was refused to cave to your bullying and childish demands.

You speak the truth but they can't handle it. Not in a Jack Nicholson sense, rather a scene from Seinfeld with this circus.

 

[nevergiveup]

And why did all this happen? The NIC is a windfall, which is totally against the merger policy. PERIOD!

breeze

Quite correct, and I believe Judge Silver realizes this as well. In this life you don't get something for nothing!