April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Claxon]

west pilot wanna be major airline pilots and real lawyers disturbed Judge Silver with the following excerpt from their legal brief. They thought they held the smoking gun with a late filing, they looked like idiots.

"3. USAPA is neither an infant or incompetent person, nor an individual in
military service."

The honorable Judge Silver responded in her court order, relating to the above west pilot like unprofessional legal filing.

"Finally, the Court notes that Plaintiffs have already accused USAPA of operating in
bad faith. (Doc. 19). Having handled the previous litigation, the Court is well-aware of the importance of the issues in this case and the unfortunate level of antagonism between the parties. That antagonism, however, will not be permitted to spillover into this litigation.

Going forward, the parties must make sincere efforts to reach agreement where possible and to accommodate reasonable requests by the opposing party."

28j west pilot attorney jacobs unprofessional filing that disturbed Judge Silver.
http://leonidas.cact...ion_Default.pdf

Judge Silver's order telling the west pilots to cool it.

http://leonidas.cact...ng_schedule.pdf

"That antagonism, however, will not be permitted to spillover into this litigation. Going forward, the parties must make sincere efforts to reach agreement where possible and
to accommodate reasonable requests by the opposing party."

A reasonable request does not sound like this west pilots,
"nic or nothing." Date of hire with conditions and restrictions does. The honorable Judge Silver, will put this same quote in her dismissal of your case next week. Work with USAPA or else! Do not complain with the final results when you do not try to help yourself. Last chance.

 

[Claxon]

The United, Continental pilots are not getting along like 767jetz poster tried to convince you of, regarding their seniority. It is a very contested situation. I will keep you up to date as the transcripts become available.​

UAL MEC Pilot update. May 2, 2013​

"Next Round of ISL Arbitration Hearings Scheduled . ​

The next ISL Arbitration Hearings will be held May 11-15 at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, 1330 Maryland Ave., SW, Washington, D.C. This hotel is located just a short walk from L'Enfant Plaza (which is also a hub for the Metro trains). Hearings are scheduled to extend for nine hours each day and will likely begin each day at 9 a.m. and end by 6 p.m., with up to a 90-minute break for lunch. Signage will be posted in the hotel entry and/or lobby to direct members to the hearing room for that day.​

​

The United MEC Merger Committee will present their case throughout that week's hearings.

All hearings will be open to pilots and their families.​

MEC Communications anticipates posting transcripts of each day's hearing on the website as soon as the transcripts are available. During the first round of hearings in April, transcripts were made available the morning after each day's hearing.​

 

[dariencc]

Captain Gay! How does one ignore a final and binding arbitration for six years? I thought it was final, and binding! Say it ain't so!

Do not mess with Captain Gay. He is the man.

Just a warning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmABnPdSsY

 

[FL430]

And there is NO mention of seniority in the MOU, now is there?
Actually it does; it states that all previous agreements are nullified and seniority will be done in accordance with M/B.
And your not working under the MOU, its not effective until the POR is approved.
Not now, but soon enough

 

[traderjake]

Unfortunately, those in the West Class never actually worked for a successful and thriving carrier, and somehow thought the only way to get a "leg up" was at the expense of others.

The West went from 3 to 140 airplanes while we went from 400 to 230.

You have a strange definition of success.

 

[prechilill]

The West went from 3 to 140 airplanes while we went from 400 to 230.

You have a strange definition of success.

Greeter is the KING of deception... His Majesty even fools himself sometimes!!! Lol

T- 7 days
Ripe

 

[nycbusdriver]

The West went from 3 to 140 airplanes while we went from 400 to 230.

You have a strange definition of success.

Wow! So when a couple of the du Ponts started All American Aviation in 1939, they started with 400 airplanes? I didn't know that!

 

[prechilill]

Wow! So when a couple of the du Ponts started All American Aviation in 1939, they started with 400 airplanes? I didn't know that!

You were working for them back then?? Not surprised.... Gramps!
So, how many bathroom breaks do you need crossing the Atlantic?

 

[prechilill]

Don't bother looking. Does not exist. And note, the MOU does say in at least two places that it has NO effect on the NIC. The West Class is now in court trying to say you actually voted on a combined list nobody has ever seen. I guess in a pinch we could always provide a DOH list to Judge Silver with NO conditions and restrictions.

Judge Silver first rules USAPA does NOT have to use the NIC (and strangely so, she could have avoided that ruling. But chose to do it anyway.) The West Class then agrees to a NEW process that negates LOA 96, yet somehow clings to the belief they can still extract a vapid and evil NIC list from the un-ratified previous process. I don't know Judge Silver, but I know she is smarter than a West Class pilot, and way smarter than Harper.

And then there is always the chance she will go down the "third party" route. That is not a question before her, she may plead for the downtrodden West Class, but has no power to give them "status." They are already represented by USAPA.

Greeter

You seem to be worried.

I would be too if I were you...

T-7 days
Ripe

 

[nycbusdriver]

You were working for them back then?? Not surprised.... Gramps!
So, how many bathroom breaks do you need crossing the Atlantic?

Not to worry. I can fly from the bathroom better than you can from the cockpit, loser.

 

[Phoenix]

Not to worry. I can fly from the bathroom better than you can from the cockpit, loser.

I have seen more blue water in the lav then s/he has seen from the Atlantic.

 

[prechilill]

Not to worry. I can fly from the bathroom better than you can from the cockpit, loser.

I hope you at least wash your hands doing that!! Lol

 

[prechilill]

I have seen more blue water in the lav then s/he has seen from the Atlantic.

How's your ocean blue in SCOTTsdale???

 

[Walmartgreeter]

What was the date of the last East furlough recall?

What was the date of the last West furlough recall?

What was the date of the last APA furlough recall?

Once you get these dates, see if you can figure out what date the two groups would agree to as a snapshot for the M/B process. I suspect it will not be 8 years ago. But then again, after she imposes the NIC, picks our PBS vendor, decides on our layover hotels, and picks our crewmeals...perhaps Judge Silver will just "tell" us the date. Or not.

Greeter

 

[prechilill]

What was the date of the last East furlough recall?

What was the date of the last West furlough recall?

What was the date of the last APA furlough recall?

Once you get these dates, see if you can figure out what date the two groups would agree to as a snapshot for the M/B process. I suspect it will not be 8 years ago. But then again, after she imposes the NIC, picks our PBS vendor, decides on our layover hotels, and picks our crewmeals...perhaps Judge Silver will just "tell" us the date. Or not.

Greeter

Hmmm. Let me look at the MOU and see what that says about America West Airlines.

Nope- couldn't find a thing. Sorry Charlie!

Getting worried???