April/May 2013 IAM Fleet Discussions

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Remember , we are STRONG right now !!!!!!!!!!

Advantage : BAGGAGE HANDLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

USA USA USA USA USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Don't forget the people who labor in subzero temperatures!!!! The people who go out there and actually WORK when far too many just drive to work in their heated cars ! ... The men and women who labor in the freezing cold , who put up with adversity day after day ...

I cannot even imagine what it would be like to work in the snow , in the hail and freezing rain .. but i'll tell you this , our performance is worth far more than what we've been compensated with thus far !!!

Don't forget those who labor in 120 degree heat , and -10 degree temperatures !
 
Proof to my point that there are indeed those interested in the discussion freedom foments.

Nope, you misunderstood me, or I didn't explain it well enough. I get frustrated when I read a comment and I have no idea what it's about. When someone replies to Freedom the question or comment from Freedom becomes relevant contextually. If Freedom said "PHX carried the TA to passage" and someone replied "That's how PHX screwed everyone else over" the comment to Freedom makes sense. Without seeing Freedoms comment I'd be left wondering why someone thinks PHX screwed everyone else over.

For the record, I agree that PHX was not the only ones voting for the TA, so let's not go THERE again!
 
your right , let's NOT go there again ....

instead let's talk about the men and women of fleet who labor day AFTER DAY ... 24/7 to maintain the high levels of service that US Airways is now known for ...

people who give their ALL , who go the EXTRA mile , day in and day out because it is a point of personal PRIDE when they do their jobs ...

and let us not forget the personal scraficice that I have seen FAR TOO MANY TIMES , when those men and women who give their all are injured on the job ... breaks my heart because they have families to support ...

What you pay for is what you get , and in my opinion we have been giving far more than what we have gotten over the last few years ...

Service starts and ends on the ramp .... planes push on time because WE push them on time ... bags get to their destination because WE go the extra mile to ensure that they do , EVEN when it's not our responsibility to do so ( another driver drops a bag , I am NOT responsible for picking it up , checking it , but I and others do , day after day because we CARE what happens to this company , we CARE about our image and we CARE about our passengers ..)
 
your right , let's NOT go there again ....

instead let's talk about the men and women of fleet who labor day AFTER DAY ... 24/7 to maintain the high levels of service that US Airways is now known for ...

people who give their ALL , who go the EXTRA mile , day in and day out because it is a point of personal PRIDE when they do their jobs ...

and let us not forget the personal scraficice that I have seen FAR TOO MANY TIMES , when those men and women who give their all are injured on the job ... breaks my heart because they have families to support ...

What you pay for is what you get , and in my opinion we have been giving far more than what we have gotten over the last few years ...

Service starts and ends on the ramp .... planes push on time because WE push them on time ... bags get to their destination because WE go the extra mile to ensure that they do , EVEN when it's not our responsibility to do so ( another driver drops a bag , I am NOT responsible for picking it up , checking it , but I and others do , day after day because we CARE what happens to this company , we CARE about our image and we CARE about our passengers ..)
you get what you pay bec you voted to have a junky contract... you say you feel for those who have sacrifice how about those you back stabbed and tossed out the door they had families they support but you chose to stab them in the heart by voting for the 08 garbage just to get that raise immediately
 
you get what you pay bec you voted to have a junky contract... you say you feel for those who have sacrifice how about those you back stabbed and tossed out the door they had families they support but you chose to stab them in the heart by voting for the 08 garbage just to get that raise immediately

yes because at the time it was the best we were going to get ... that was IT ... while I am many things , at the end of the day i'm a cold hard realist ... and those of us who understood what was happening to the industry and to the general American economy knew that it was a take it or leave it type of situation .

Rather than labor under poverty wages for the next XYZ amount of years ( probably until this very date )we choose to make the logical decision ....

I know that there may be many in the company who may now think that as then ,we now negotiate under "negative" conditions , but let me assure those of you who doubt our position , that it is NOT the case ...

Even my own union may not know the true extent of our position of power that we now sit down with ...I have held my tounge and continue to do so because I honestly don't want to see our company hurt ... but believe me when I say that I feel OUR union is the stronger force at the table this time rather than the company .
 
the airline would have had to come up with a better offer bec the investors would have demanded it to keep labor peace. bottom line you voted for this bec it was your one and only shot at getting a raise while you were stabbin your fellow coworkers in their hearts and saying adios amigos go find a way to support your family that is what this 08 contract was about and you chose it bec you wanted that money bad and screw all the others at any and all costs you proved it there... so dont tell us this is your own union saying what case is what... you dont have any clue go get a life the union has more power and more leverage than you will ever know in your life... ive met a number of high level union officials in my 15 plus yr career so dont tell me or anyone on here bec you dont know crap
 
Your angry ... and you have every right to be ...

blame me and the rest of the union as much as you like , but it was the COMPANY that choose to shut your station down ...

it was US AIRWAYS that made the decision to take your lower middle class AMERICAN job and outsource it to the lowest bidder possible ...

A scene that is repeated FAR too many times in this country now a days ... it's no lie when I say that people are literally SICK of what's been happening to people like you , people like them , OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN ...

We often speak of having blood on our hands in this forum .... Well US AIRWAYS had best remember that out of all of us , they have the most ... they are dripping with it ...
 
never said i was angry you are a pathetic pos you voted this pos 08 contract in knowing full well you were throwin your own coworkers out the door I VOTED NO BEC OF HOW THE CONTRACT WAS WRITTEN AND I WILL CONTINUE TO VOTE NO TO POS CONTRACTS LIKE THAT.. you do not care for your coworkers and it clearly shows I will continue to put the blame where it belongs and if im to blame for anything i will gladly admit it unfortunately low life scum bags like you who vote for money and nothing else is why we have this contract. open your eyes and look at the whole big picture may be next time youll learn a lesson and read the entire t/a agreement BEFORE YOU VOTE AND ACTUALLY ASK QUESTIONS.. I DO
MY STATION MAY BEEN CLOSED BUT I MOVED TO A CITY THAT IS STILL MAINLINE I BE WILLING TO BET AFTER THE MERGER YOU WILL TAKE A HUGE HIT AND MAY BE YOU WILL GET A TASTE OF UR OWN MEDICINE
 
Your angry ... and you have every right to be ...

blame me and the rest of the union as much as you like , but it was the COMPANY that choose to shut your station down ...

it was US AIRWAYS that made the decision to take your lower middle class AMERICAN job and outsource it to the lowest bidder possible ...

A scene that is repeated FAR too many times in this country now a days ... it's no lie when I say that people are literally SICK of what's been happening to people like you , people like them , OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN ...

We often speak of having blood on our hands in this forum .... Well US AIRWAYS had best remember that out of all of us , they have the most ... they are dripping with it ...

Freedom it happened because you voted for this pos contract that let them do it. I can see how proud you are.
 
Freedom it happened because you voted for this pos contract that let them do it. I can see how proud you are.

REALLY ? I suggested that US Airways outsource ALL those stations ... throw away THAT many lower middle class AMERICAN jobs ? I don't remember being consulted by this companies management ....

no , as a poor person , laboring in America today , doing hard yet honest blue collar work , I was given an IMPOSSIBLE choice by this fortune five hundred company .. outsource those stations or work in POVERTY for the next several years ...With all of our workers who had families to feed , what choice was there ? It was like putting a gun to our heads and tell us too choose ...

I never WANTED to see those poor wretched souls thrown to the curb , people like myself ! , NO I tell you it was the management of this company , the ONE PERCENT who wanted to secure their yearly bonus on the backs of this nations workers .... THEY are the ones who forced us into this horrid situation ....

If I could snap my fingers and bring those jobs back I would ... even if it meant NO contract improvements whatsoever ... I want to see AMERICANS working again ... but companies like US Airways , they don't care about people like us ... it's all a numbers game to them ..
 
no you were not consulted, you just voted for the contract that allowed it to happen. A contract brought to you in part by that well known bulldog RR
 
no you were not consulted, you just voted for the contract that allowed it to happen. A contract brought to you in part by that well known bulldog RR

even HE didn't have much of a choice in the matter ... poor man was forced to confront the worst possible situation a man responsible for people can be made to make ...

With a worsening US economy , with a union membership that didn't understand the situation or even it's position in the "new" American economy ... he made the choice , that hard choice that had to be made , sick as it may make all of us ...

but at least today we have LIVED TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY ...... we stand on the verge of being able to reclaim that which was forced from us ,AMERICAN JOBS ..........and now more than Ever ,this country stands with people such as OURSELVES , blue collar workers , honest workers , hard workers ... people trying to provide for their families ...

now is our time .
 
Nope, you misunderstood me, or I didn't explain it well enough. I get frustrated when I read a comment and I have no idea what it's about. When someone replies to Freedom the question or comment from Freedom becomes relevant contextually. If Freedom said "PHX carried the TA to passage" and someone replied "That's how PHX screwed everyone else over" the comment to Freedom makes sense. Without seeing Freedoms comment I'd be left wondering why someone thinks PHX screwed everyone else over.

For the record, I agree that PHX was not the only ones voting for the TA, so let's not go THERE again!

I gotcha.
 
freedum if you only read the lines in the entire contract instead you just read the money part and said YES. explain why other carriers notably SWA are paying more for their fleet service even durin that down turn... even AA before they filed ch11... you cant explain it bec you darn well know you voted for the contract knowingly and willfully stabbing your coworkers in their hearts saying to them you dont give a dam about them n their families.. this airline would have been forced to come up with a better offer no matter how you look at it... bec the investors are the ones who want the labor peace... get a life and learn...
 
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