APA Proposes Pay Restoration

[FA Mikey]

Seriously - a LARGE part of YOUR airline IS a BK airline that DID stiff its creditors!! THink TWA... THAT IS YOU - sweeite, you bought it, so it becomes you... You have alot to be jealous of, you just have a hard tome admitting it. I would LOVE it if my CEO sold us to US, because, I would gain 6 years of my seniority back and be combined with all my old school co-workers... Quite frankly your post is void, because your speaking with emotion, and not reality... Don't forget you are a BK carrier as well, and you didn't have to file b/c you gave it in concessions... So blind, oh so blind..........

How large? How is it only part? Didi AA file with out telling the creditors? Wow I guess this is the just the kind of thing you post if you are to chicken to answer up to anyone elses posts or questions.

So I will do you AA Elitists a favor and quit busting your happy chops and leave you alone to your board

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

How large? How is it only part? Didi AA file with out telling the creditors? Wow I guess this is the just the kind of thing you post if you are to chicken to answer up to anyone elses posts or questions.

Did you miss the part when AA purchased BANKRUPT TWA?? your fleet, your market share, your employees - all from a BK airline........... Go figure, of course you don't understand....

 

[IORFA]

Just ignore the nonsense and hopefully IT will get a life and move back to flaming her own UA board. Reality isn't a trait that IT can comprehend. Now, IT says we are a Bankrupt company like her beloved UA, because we purchased assets from a bankrupt carrier. Some how this is logical in IT'S world.

 

[aafsc]

Did you miss the part when AA purchased BANKRUPT TWA?? your fleet, your market share, your employees - all from a BK airline........... Go figure, of course you don't understand....

Your knowledge of bankruptcy law is the same as your knowledge of mathematics. AA did not purchase bankrupt TWA. It purchased TWA's assets in a bankruptcy liquidation. TWA Inc. still existed as a shell corporation after AA took only the assets it wanted and left the rest in that shell corporation.

 

[operaations]

I would LOVE it if my CEO sold us to US, because, I would gain 6 years of my seniority back and be combined with all my old school co-workers...

this explains alot. IT was cast off by US like a flea would a dog. IT then landed on a different dog. I would be just as bitter if the company I originally worked for cast me off because it did not want me. Excuse me for I did not realize you were an airline misfit unable to find its place in our world. Dont worry maybe someday you will be Back at your beloved US...or is it HP...oh well .

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

this explains alot. IT was cast off by US like a flea would a dog. IT then landed on a different dog. I would be just as bitter if the company I originally worked for cast me off because it did not want me. Excuse me for I did not realize you were an airline misfit unable to find its place in our world. Dont worry maybe someday you will be Back at your beloved US...or is it HP...oh well .

LOL, whats wrong? cant stand it that i have options huh? Are you calling all furloughees fleas??? Like I said I don't put all my eggs in one basket, and if I wnated to be at US - I could have long ago.. So put it how you want, but in this world 2 seniority numbers is better than one... So I have many more options than you, get over it... GEESSHHHH people hate it when others have what they want - hey OPS - I know its hard, but put the tires back on your house and move on, quit trying to bash me, it does nothing to me, and it makes you look stupid... and sound stupid....

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

Your knowledge of bankruptcy law is the same as your knowledge of mathematics. AA did not purchase bankrupt TWA. It purchased TWA's assets in a bankruptcy liquidation. TWA Inc. still existed as a shell corporation after AA took only the assets it wanted and left the rest in that shell corporation.

Repeat after me - from a bankrupt carrier, repeat after me - from a bankrupt carrier... You are even saying it your ownself and still can't admit it... No matter what, you purchased TWA in their BK, and now you have many of their planes and many of their people, FROM A BANKRUPT AIRLINE.... The point is this, you are dogging all the airlines that partook in BK, yet much of your operation is from planes and people from a bankrupt airline, that AA purchased... So that makes you no more pure than the next airline, if you want to see pure look at JETBLUE or VA or SWA.... Don't try and mask you history and make yourself to sound like an innocent virgin, you are far from it.....

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

WHOA--WHOA--WHOA..beauty, ..take a ZANAX, Shet, take 4 ZANAX...."Just SHUT THE FUUK UP"(please, for a second) !!

(Sigh...wiping sweating brow) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of All....your right, AA is ANYTHING but...Pure and Innocent !!

BUT(and whether you like this or not) It's TRUE;

Buying asset's "from" a BK filing, Does NOT make AA a BK carrier !!
(Jesus, I can remember when UAL bought "pieces" from a broken down Capital airlines, but don't concern yourself with THAT) !!

(like it or not) I get a "defined benefit" retiree check, You will NEVER, AND , I NEVER took any concessions !!!!!!!!! I "GTFO" mere weeks before the cuts went into effect.

Granted, spineless DFW/pilots, F/a's and FSC's, and spineless TUL/AMT's, allowed AA to wrench concessions from the whole workforce.

Never having "stiffed " any creditors, is NOT THE SAME as...."well you P R O B A B L Y ..would have"
"shoulda'--coulda'--woulda' " (THAT, AS YOU WELL KNOW, does'nt "hold water"

When(not if) other carriers, besides AA, "hop into the sack, and therefore wind up spending their respective "rainy day funds", plays RIGHT into AA's HANDS, while AA's "RDF" $$$, keeps getting LARGER.

I will admit, that "after a mid to long period of time, a hypothetical NW/DL hook up would have tremendous worldwide reach, ask yourself what will AA be doing, during THAT protracted period of at least 5+ years ???

And finally, as BAGBELT mentioned a few posts before, (and his theory is VERY close and dear to my way of thinking), we ALL will see a smaller AA work force, making MORE $$$$$.
(Remember, a smaller AA does NOT mean a smaller "AMR"
And THAT will be(IMHO) possible because of AA's current "most valuable/versitile weapon...American Eagle !!

I've TRIED(so far In Vain) to tell you beauty, that when it comes to AA, THEY have had a LUCKY horseshoe up their A$$, for as long as I can remember.

"It IS what it IS"..beauty. I know you DON'T like IT, but..."It IS what it IS" !!!!!

 

[IORFA]

You know at this point, the ignorance of the Loon from UA is like a loose tooth. I want to ignore IT, but can't. The pain of reading IT'S posts is like watching a train wreck over and over and over and over...........again. Too bad someone in IT'S life isn't watching this so they could perform an intervention on IT and get IT some much needed help. Then again, I wouldn't be able to watch the daily catastrophe happen in front of my eyes. I am torn. Help for the Loon or entertainment for myself? Which is more important? Maybe I should start a poll.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

IORFA,
I suppose it would be easier to stand by, and watch the "carnage", but You and I, and many other AA ers have been around long enough to know that HDQ rarely makes any dangerous BAD MOVES.
For others who can't seem to decifer USA commercial aviation HISTORY, it's understandable that "they don't UNDERSTAND'

For example:

Just when it looks like AA's about to get SCREWED because of underfunded pensions..."VIOLA", congress passes special pension reform, for AA(and CO)
(OOOPS, there's that AA Lucky Horseshoe AGAIN)

IORFA, I KNOW you know the rest of the AA fact's, so I won't keep going on and on.

The faster OIL keeps going up, the faster the costly M+A's happen, the better off AA, and the CURRENT majority of employees will be !

 

[aafsc]

Repeat after me - from a bankrupt carrier, repeat after me - from a bankrupt carrier... You are even saying it your ownself and still can't admit it... No matter what, you purchased TWA in their BK, and now you have many of their planes and many of their people, FROM A BANKRUPT AIRLINE.... The point is this, you are dogging all the airlines that partook in BK, yet much of your operation is from planes and people from a bankrupt airline, that AA purchased... So that makes you no more pure than the next airline, if you want to see pure look at JETBLUE or VA or SWA.... Don't try and mask you history and make yourself to sound like an innocent virgin, you are far from it.....

Much of our operations, planes, and people are from a bankrupt airline? Your analytical abilities leave much to be desired. At the time of the asset purchase, AA was #2 and TWA was #8 in terms of size. TW had close to 200 planes and AA had close to 700. TWA's market share was insignificant when compared to AA's. Presently, there are ONLY AROUND 70 ex-TWA aircraft in AA's fleet of 650-hardly "much of our operation". AA's purchase of TWA's assets was no different than UA's or DL's purchase of Pan Am's assets or AA's purchase of EAL's Latin American assets (except EA people didn't fare as well as TW people). Jetblue and VA are new entrants; however, Southwest has been involved in some transactions.

 

[AAStew]

Can I make a suggestion? Instead of ignoring DTTB's posts, go under your control panel and have the forum do it for you. Go under Manage Ignored Users and add the name to it. The posts will not come up at all. I agree with all of you that this person is a pest, and I would be able to ignore all it's posts if you all didn't keep quoting and responding back to it! This poster will never leave our board as long as we keep replying back to it!

 

[operaations]

OHHH STEW I wish I could ingore IT. It is like an addiction...and yes a bad accident on the other side of the highway. You just have to look and see the wreck.

She needs more helpp than any one of us could ever offer

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

OHHH STEW I wish I could ingore IT. It is like an addiction...and yes a bad accident on the other side of the highway. You just have to look and see the wreck.

She needs more helpp than any one of us could ever offer

Hey OPS, I just saw that even USAIRWAYS exceeded the AA profit, the number 6 carrier - how sad for you, uh huh - I see a real big raise coming on... ahhh hhaaaa hhhaaaaaa haaaaaaa

 

[Nor'Easta]

I WILL STRIKE