markkus757 said:
Yeah, sure he lied about Iraq; like Putin, Cheraque, Clinton, Kerry, THE UN, and Kennedy all did as well.
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Yes, but none of them lied to justify an invasion of Iraq and involve America in a project that will take a generation to complete successfully. That Bush selectively chose the facts that supported his intentions and reported the same to congress and the American people is clear.
Stop the nonsense. It's one thing to not like someone. It's totally another to let it blind your judgement.
Wait. You assume that because I would hold an elected official accountable for his words and deeds, that I don't
like him? Talk about letting something blind your judgement! If it was a case of me merely not liking him I would be holding him up to ridicule with nicknames like "Ms Waco" or something. If everyone thought that elected officials shouldn't be held accountable for their actions or that anyone who would question an elected official does so simply because they "don't like" them, we might as well go back to a monarchical system of government, because that's not a democracy.
I don't think Clinton and Ms. Waco would've done anything but launch a few more cruise missiles.
Well, that does nothing to address my question about the Patriot Act, but lets run with it. Considering how the Republicans reacted to Clinton intervening to stop a genocide in Kosovo, accusing him of attempting to draw attention away from his domestic problems, how do you think they would have reacted to him announcing an invasion of Afghanistan without an attack like 9/11 to show justify it?
By the way, before you stick your foot in your mouth again,...
Are you incapable of having a discussion without resorting to personal attacks on those who may disagree with you?
...Bush SHOULD have done something before 9/11 even happened.
He did. He paid the Taliban $43 Million in the hope that they would stop growing opium. Don't believe me? Read the LA Times column from May 22, 2001 on the subject:
LA Times Article
One has to wonder how much of that money was spent training the 9/11 hijackers.
All of the evidence was there in front of him and HE chose to not bother.
All the evidence was in front of him and he chose what he wanted to believe to justify his Iraq fixation. Every source from the pre-9/11 Bush administration makes it clear that he intended to invade Iraq long before 9/11 and, even as 9/11 was still happening, sought to somehow link the attacks to Saddam.
We still have issues with imigration and NEITHER side is doing anything about it. I think we can agree to that.
Indeed. As long as the US economy is dependent on cheap labor and an eroding standard of living for the average citizen, neither party will do anything about immigration.
