Another School Massacre

[Ms Tree]

And that's done by background checks at purchase.

I can by a gun in Texas with out a background the check and its perfectly legal.

 

[Deepthroat]

I can by a gun in Texas with out a background the check and its perfectly legal.

I understand that, it should be any transfer at sale go through a dealer and BR check.
The rest of the unregistered unknown weapons will be out there forever. Feinsteins bill calls for mandatory registration of all guns. Didn't work in Canada, won't work here.

 

[Ms Tree]

Of course it will not work. It will get some of the guns registered but I agree they will never all be registered. I do believe all new guns should be required to be registered with title of ownership like a car. No person to person sales with out a back ground check and transfer of title.

This will help get some more guns off the road and also get them registered as it will make it more difficult to sell guns P2P will out some sort of advertising on Craigs or dedicated gun sites.

Obtaining a gun should be easy for people who are legally allowed to own it. Right now it is far to easy for people who should not be able to buy a weapon to gain access to them. That is what needs to be fixed and that is what the NRA and the extreme gun nuts are unwilling to explore.

The nature of the country and guns has changed a little in the last 250+ years. Regulations need to be implemented to limit the access to guns. If the republicans would get ahead of the wave they might actually do some good, other wise the next time a mass killing happens, they will get b!tch slapped by the stupid wave that will come forth by the likes of Fienstein and the rest of the extreme left.

 

[Deepthroat]

If all sales new or old were done through FFL dealers that would pretty much satisfy what you speak of, which since the JFK days should have been the norm nationwide in the first place.
Your example of gun transfers where you live is a good example of some of the cracks in the system that need attention and the so called gun show loophole need a national fix. If you check, most states already require BR checks and most gun show sales are done by dealers with a FFL doing BR checks within the law. Its a minority of states and people selling guns at shows that need to be required to comply which isn't that big of a deal. The problem is sensationalizing these issues on the national spotlight which make it look like this problem is in every state and every gun show, and its not.

 

[Ms Tree]

The other big hole is P2P sales. As I said earlier, I can walk up to someone with a wad of cash in my hand and walk away with a gun, no questions asked. If a gun had to be titled and the owners a$$ was on the line for my actions, you can be dam sure that person would run a BG and transfer the title.

These are simple safe guards that could be implemented but the idiots on the left or right do not suggest them. Leads me to believe that there is money involved for both sides but from where I do not know.

The gun dealers are making a lot of money because of the idiots who think their will loose their guns. Not sure where the politicians are making their money because there does not seem to be an interest that makes any sense, at least not that I can see.

This really does not make any sense.

 

[Deepthroat]

The other big hole is P2P sales. As I said earlier, I can walk up to someone with a wad of cash in my hand and walk away with a gun, no questions asked. If a gun had to be titled and the owners a$$ was on the line for my actions, you can be dam sure that person would run a BG and transfer the title.

These are simple safe guards that could be implemented but the idiots on the left or right do not suggest them. Leads me to believe that there is money involved for both sides but from where I do not know.

The gun dealers are making a lot of money because of the idiots who think their will loose their guns. Not sure where the politicians are making their money because there does not seem to be an interest that makes any sense, at least not that I can see.

This really does not make any sense.

Its hard to believe in this state of events that gun dealers would go out on a limb for a sale. Note the dealers from Texas during the Fast and Furious issue, they kept detailed records.
If it was the law that any gun transfer required a BR check whether or not it was a new gun or a used gun transfer would be heading in the right direction.
Total registration of all unknown firearms is, at first a self defeating exercise as it will never happen one way or another.

 

[Ms Tree]

I agree that not all guns will be registered but if it is 'mandatory' then quite a few weapons will be registered and at least those guns can be tracked. I sell my registered gun to you and you then sell it to someone.... etc all with back ground checks. If I do not need to register my gun and do not but sell it to you and then you sell it and that person sells it, the likely hood of that gun making it to the hands of someone who should not have them.

I know we will never get them all, but every gun that is registered is one less that makes it into the hands of someone who should not have it.

 

[Dog Wonder]

We know precisely what the progressives want: they seek to confiscate all firearms from law-abiding citizens, leaving only the state (and criminals) with a monopoly on force. These people are precisely the would-be tyrants our Founders feared, and on whom they placed explicit constraints as they designed the Constitution.

These Progressives are your prototypical, power-hungry elitists who despise the very citizenry they purport to serve

Are these your own thoughts, or did you steal them from a clueless NY assembleyman who was never a Democrat (insert progressive to make it sound like your own opinion) and claims to know how they think?

 

[Deepthroat]

I agree that not all guns will be registered but if it is 'mandatory' then quite a few weapons will be registered and at least those guns can be tracked. I sell my registered gun to you and you then sell it to someone.... etc all with back ground checks. If I do not need to register my gun and do not but sell it to you and then you sell it and that person sells it, the likely hood of that gun making it to the hands of someone who should not have them.

I know we will never get them all, but every gun that is registered is one less that makes it into the hands of someone who should not have it.

Leave it alone and when you sell me your unregis weapon, it goes through BR, is documented and done. Sooner or later if the law is abided by, all will eventually comply unless they choose to not register which I think will be the standard rather than the norm.
Only reason to register unknown weapons is to know where they live for future considerations.

 

[Ms Tree]

Why would a BG check occur if I sell you an unregistered weapon? If you are a crook you will not go through a BG and no one will know.

 

[southwind]

The other big hole is P2P sales. As I said earlier, I can walk up to someone with a wad of cash in my hand and walk away with a gun, no questions asked. If a gun had to be titled and the owners a$$ was on the line for my actions, you can be dam sure that person would run a BG and transfer the title.

These are simple safe guards that could be implemented but the idiots on the left or right do not suggest them. Leads me to believe that there is money involved for both sides but from where I do not know.

The gun dealers are making a lot of money because of the idiots who think their will loose their guns. Not sure where the politicians are making their money because there does not seem to be an interest that makes any sense, at least not that I can see.

This really does not make any sense.

So I'm selling a gun for $300. The background check will run me $150.................what a deal !

 

[Ms Tree]

Where did you get $150 from? Regardless, there is a cost of ownership for a lot of things. There is insurance and registration for cars, houses and recreational crafts. Get over it.

 

[southwind]

Where did you get $150 from? Regardless, there is a cost of ownership for a lot of things. There is insurance and registration for cars, houses and recreational crafts. Get over it.

Threw the $150 at the wall, to see if it would stick !
Doesn't matter whether it's $1.50 or $150.................as long as Big Brother gets his cut !

 

[southwind]

Why does every-f$%^ing-thing in the universe, have to be taxed or regulated ?

 

[777 fixer]

Proves you don't know what the real military is about. A friend was in special forces in Vietnam, what he had to do, don't bet the farm that they won't.

No, it proves you have no idea what the "real" military is about.