AMFA......read on

[TRAVIS]

And yes I like to stir the pot........

 

[AANOTOK]

And yes I like to stir the pot........

How grown up...

 

[Zom JFK]

I have said this before it is my views. and AMFA is not my first choice it's just better that a IAM/TWU choice. The NMB put others in the class and craft and I feel we should not have them in a A&P Union as we are Licensed professionals the key word  is LICENSED   just like the Pilots have no others and are LICENSED PROFESSIONALS . AMFAinMIAMI is correct to a point it's not that I don't respect other work groups they just don't need to be in the same part of the union voting on my future and wanting the same pay as licensed AMT's because they are in the same union or a union using the AMT'S as a negotiation chip at the table to get them a raise off our backs.

So delusional. A raise off your back? That is laughable.

 

[700UW]

Do any of you really think that being on your own will get you more money?
 
If they cut the ramp or CSA or any other jobs, they wont pay the mechanics more.
 
How did being on your own work out at NW?
 
And once again ancillary duties didnt break AMFA at NW.

 

[AANOTOK]

So delusional. A raise off your back? That is laughable.

Let me put it in it's proper term (heard it for years) "riding their coattails" I believe is how it's labeled.
 
Again, for the many of you AMT's I do respect, I hope you get everything you deserve and more...
For the clowns...I'll keep it to my self... B)

 

[MetalMover]

Let me put it in it's proper term (heard it for years) "riding their coattails" I believe is how it's labeled.
 
Again, for the many of you AMT's I do respect, I hope you get everything you deserve and more...
For the clowns...I'll keep it to my self... B)

I don't think those who work the ramp begrudge the mechanics or vice versa. But the for decades, the TWU and IAM leadership have tried to keep the pay gap small between the two work groups. And the reason has always been because the mechanics were the smaller group in both unions. When you are the minority, you don't get to elect your own and have to live under the rule of the majority with practically no voice. THIS IS THE REASON MECHANICS WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE!
It is not because we think we are better than anyone else, but we would like ot have more of a say on issues specifice to mechanics.

 

[AANOTOK]

As in any mechanism of society Metal, you are going to have the clowns, jerks, hacks...whatever, and you are going to have the good, honest, loyal etc...types of people. As my above comment mentioned, for those who fit the latter in that comment, I could care less about. For you and others who I do respect, I truly know why you want what you do and I agree and honestly hope you are successful. Peace!

 

[MetalMover]

As in any mechanism of society Metal, you are going to have the clowns, jerks, hacks...whatever, and you are going to have the good, honest, loyal etc...types of people. As my above comment mentioned, for those who fit the latter in that comment, I could care less about. For you and others who I do respect, I truly know why you want what you do and I agree and honestly hope you are successful. Peace!

Well said!

 

[xUT]

Do any of you really think that being on your own will get you more money?

That isn't the 'absolute' issue. Is it?
 

If they cut the ramp or CSA or any other jobs, they wont pay the mechanics more.

Again, that isn't the 'absolute' issue.
 

How did being on your own work out at NW?

wash rinse and repeat. How did that EAL strike work out?
How many NW iam represented employees are still represented?
 

And once again ancillary duties didnt break AMFA at NW.

So a 'little' scabbing is OK in your 'union' world?

B) xUT

 

[xUT]

I don't think those who work the ramp begrudge the mechanics or vice versa. But the for decades, the TWU and IAM leadership have tried to keep the pay gap small between the two work groups. And the reason has always been because the mechanics were the smaller group in both unions. When you are the minority, you don't get to elect your own and have to live under the rule of the majority with practically no voice. THIS IS THE REASON MECHANICS WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE!
It is not because we think we are better than anyone else, but we would like ot have more of a say on issues specifice to mechanics.

Well stated.
B) xUT

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Do any of you really think that being on your own will get you more money?
 
If they cut the ramp or CSA or any other jobs, they wont pay the mechanics more.
 
How did being on your own work out at NW?
 
And once again ancillary duties didnt break AMFA at NW.

 
700UW
 
Since YOU are NOT a mechanics you won't understand that is why you constantly go to a place that no one cares about anymore. NWA. They are Gone, Not part of the industry, Oh thats right neither are YOU.
 
 
The reason we want our own union so that we can determine our future. Good or Bad we have a say and it fail its on us. It does not effect any other work group at what ever airline does it? If we at AA change to AMFA how does that effect the ramp/fleet or any other group? We are still all union employees of AA aren't we.
 
If our bargaining unit fails then we failed to elect the right guys. Then we can remove them and try again next negotiation time. With the IAM/TWU we can't do that.
 
We are tired of having our class and craft run by NON-mechanics. The TWU Intl. is run by bus drivers and other types of labor groups Not airline people. The ATD had some airline mechanics but they were above the law so to speak so they looked out for themselves instead of the people they work for. The union official work for the membership or its supposed to be that way but the TWU works for their own gain.
 
The TWU has failed the mechanics that is what we feel and NO Matter what you or any one else says we want the TWU Gone. Now its the Association the leaders of the IAM and TWU with the blessing of the AFL-CIO made this and expect us to accept it. NO WAY
 
The IAM at one time was a strong union and I was proud to support them at Eastern, but they have become like all the others. I hate to go here since it does not matter much any more but since you go there the IAM SCABBED at NWA. Crossing a picket line is just that no matter what the reason. A Scab is a SCAB..
 
AMFA at AA/USAir in 2014

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I don't think those who work the ramp begrudge the mechanics or vice versa. But the for decades, the TWU and IAM leadership have tried to keep the pay gap small between the two work groups. And the reason has always been because the mechanics were the smaller group in both unions. When you are the minority, you don't get to elect your own and have to live under the rule of the majority with practically no voice. THIS IS THE REASON MECHANICS WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE!
It is not because we think we are better than anyone else, but we would like ot have more of a say on issues specifice to mechanics.

I think there is a lot of truth to that. Well said.
 

Some have said he wanted the IBT now he's switched to support our cause I don't really care he's not like me and the guys who have supported this for many yrs.

Not everyone that supports you is a licensed A&P mechanic. I support you and I was a Fleet Service Clerk........ at a maintenance base. 
 
Some of us rather see safe aircraft that trained professionals have worked on than safety diluted in the name of corporate profits.
 
Remember that.

 

[WeAAsles]

I have said this before it is my views. and AMFA is not my first choice it's just better that a IAM/TWU choice. The NMB put others in the class and craft and I feel we should not have them in a A&P Union as we are Licensed professionals the key word  is LICENSED   just like the Pilots have no others and are LICENSED PROFESSIONALS . AMFAinMIAMI is correct to a point it's not that I don't respect other work groups they just don't need to be in the same part of the union voting on my future and wanting the same pay as licensed AMT's because they are in the same union or a union using the AMT'S as a negotiation chip at the table to get them a raise off our backs.

Are you a mechanic for AA or US? 

 

[WeAAsles]

 
 
WeAAsles 
 
Travis is not an AMFA organizer or even an AA employee I think so what he says is not what I or other AMFA guys believe, he is like 700UW just here to stir the pot.
 
Some have said he wanted the IBT now he's switched to support our cause I don't really care he's not like me and the guys who have supported this for many yrs.

Thanks Miami.

 

[Kev3188]

Well stated.
B) xUT

Speaking of "well stated," please bust out your pay formula from the way back. It'd say things a lot better than I can, and would do wonders for this thread.