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AMFAinMIAMI
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WeAAsles said:
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You seem well informed, as a union guy, so why ask about the title 2 guys you know as well as everyone here that the Title 2 guys parts washers, welders, shop mechanics even aircraft washers/cleaners, auto mechanics Facilities, utility (US). All are part of my class and craft. That is what the NMB says it can't be changed so no matter what, so you/the union/700UW/ or any others who say we want to have _________ in our class and craft its not up to us. AMFA represents all in our class and craft per the NMB.
Guy's like travis and others here don't represent the whole mechanics class and craft.
What his opinion and others with like minds believes is their choice. It's not what AMFA is about.
AMFAinMIAMI
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Hey 700UW700UW said:
The IAM had an apprentice program at EASTERN Many yrs ago as well.
Just look at all the jobs in Tulsa that were created by that program. They get paid for the skill level they have less the A&P lic. money. per the CBA.
And as you have told us that either you mom in law or what ever is an A&P she had to start some where as well she does not come to the airlines with a new A&P and get top wages. Some work in general aviation and they make less as well.
Just look at your USAir guys they make less than I do for my A&P, and they just settled an IAM contract. WOW the IAM did a good job there..
OgieJFK
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I thought the IBT was the ticket? You were SOOO in love with the IBT I really thought they'd bring down Mr.Hands to service you for you're loyalty. About a year ago you were trashing the AA forums with you're anti-AMFA talk leading up to the card turn in. When AA's AMTs got that bullshit pulled on them by the IBT you were on here LAUGHING at them with glee like a little school girl. Recently you've crawled out of whatever troll hole you've been living in and My oh My you've done a 180 in a year's times. Travis whatever union you get is bound to fail with guys like you in it.TRAVIS said:
To the AA AMTs...Good luck and hope you guys get the union you want and DESERVE
WeAAsles
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Miami I really believe that you would represent those individuals to the best of your abilities and not vote them out in the future for pay raises. But they are the minority in your class and craft who at least IMO would be thrown to the dirt in a heartbeat by many like Travis and some who a be in the position to but it put there for a vote when TA time comes rolling around.AMFAinMIAMI said:
Many of your guys have said it and you know it's true. You earn less because those people earn too much. That's honestly why most of them are scared to death of signing cards. They just don't trust AMFA to really want and keep them safe. That's what THEY tell ME.
The NMB does dictate that they are a part of your bargaining unit. But the NMB doesn't demand you have to keep them in the future.
You truly are clueless on aa and twu issues. If you knew how the twu threatens Tulsa during negotiations you would have not made that comment. You are just twisting things around to inflame other posters to engage in your lack of past history with aa and twu issues. You really need to step aside from certain aa and twu issues you have no idea and business commenting on.700UW said:
AMFAinMIAMI
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WeAAslesWeAAsles said:
The title 2 guys believe what the IBT and TWU told them what happened at NWA.
Just look at what has happened here in Mia the TWU has lower paid assistants in the Title 2 group (facilities). Thats a TWU thing. The same guys at SWA make more than the title 1 guys with A&P's here at AA. AMFA has not gotten rid of them there or at Alaska.
It's all been a scare tactic of the unions, the IAM, IBT and TWU. Just so they won't loose our dues. The IAM/IBT have all mechanics on one seniority list, here at AA we have separate list.
Just remember we here at AA had cabin cleaners now it's Eulin who's doing it, so your TWU got rid of them to keep some of you on the pay roll. Contracted out Fueling too. Aren't a lot of the ramp guys part time now, what happened to all the full time jobs?
It would take a change of the contract to do away with them and just remember they would have a say in that so, its not going to happen. AMFA wants them and is required to represent them just like any other group.
It's time for a change and it's time for all title 1 & 2 to sign AMFA cards so we can remove the TWU and move forward with a new Union. for the mechanics at AA/USAir...
AMFAinMIAMI
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WeAAsles said:
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Travis is not an AMFA organizer or even an AA employee I think so what he says is not what I or other AMFA guys believe, he is like 700UW just here to stir the pot.
Some have said he wanted the IBT now he's switched to support our cause I don't really care he's not like me and the guys who have supported this for many yrs.
AMFAinMIAMI
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WeAAslesWeAAsles said:
If you have paid attention to what guys like WNMECH and SWAMT and other have posted it's different than how the TWU and IBT/IAM do things.
If you ask a AMFA represented employee if they are happier now than before most will say "YES"
TRAVIS
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I have said this before it is my views. and AMFA is not my first choice it's just better that a IAM/TWU choice. The NMB put others in the class and craft and I feel we should not have them in a A&P Union as we are Licensed professionals the key word is LICENSED just like the Pilots have no others and are LICENSED PROFESSIONALS . AMFAinMIAMI is correct to a point it's not that I don't respect other work groups they just don't need to be in the same part of the union voting on my future and wanting the same pay as licensed AMT's because they are in the same union or a union using the AMT'S as a negotiation chip at the table to get them a raise off our backs.WeAAsles said:
