Bin Stretcher
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- Apr 6, 2017
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No meetings where I was
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Bin Stretcher I personally agree with you 100%. I think the only issue with all the information we’re receiving is that it’s not really concentrated into one area exactly.
There are multiple perspectives coming from multiple different legitimate and good sources but I think some people have difficulties putting it all together to get the clearest picture.
Not to mention also that the conspiracy theorists out there don’t necessarily believe what they’re reading. Not everything can be simple black and white in their minds.
I'm not a fan of the Association. Very complex to put two different groups deals into a negotiation with a management group who has much of what they want already. I think many of the TWU people have lost a good portion of trust in that we were told we would vote on the Association and then had it shoved upon us. Basically we were lied to, and I don't trust anyone who lies to me. Never seen this kind of stuff in over 30 years.In the those 40 yrs were you ever represented by two unions that then became the entity known as an Association. One by the way that was forced upon you. In my 36 years with AA, I have not. Maybe that is a contributing factor.
And yet we stay the course ....cant get everyone to admit where in a messI'm not a fan of the Association. Very complex to put two different groups deals into a negotiation with a management group who has much of what they want already. I think many of the TWU people have lost a good portion of trust in that we were told we would vote on the Association and then had it shoved upon us. Basically we were lied to, and I don't trust anyone who lies to me. Never seen this kind of stuff in over 30 years.
I'm not a fan of the Association. Very complex to put two different groups deals into a negotiation with a management group who has much of what they want already. I think many of the TWU people have lost a good portion of trust in that we were told we would vote on the Association and then had it shoved upon us. Basically we were lied to, and I don't trust anyone who lies to me. Never seen this kind of stuff in over 30 years.
Looking back you could almost excuse the lack of communication but not now with all the resources available.People are annoyed cause all the updates are the same, thats not a lack of communication more so it's a lack of progress in the negotiationsNo meetings where I was
there are no alternatives. Until then, i guess the association will just recycle the same boring plays. Prolly throw in some petitions, surveys, a couple rallies, etc.Tim one question......
What do we do now????Its obvious negotiations are at a stalemate with no movement in sight.The association has been controversial at best and a complete failure at worst.What are our alternatives
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700,No. This is a first for me as well. I just don't get my panties in a wad because I know some of these guys of the NC and trust them to fight my battles. No issues with the association what so ever.
All I know is that once 1 raid is successful against this miserable iam, im hoping the new union will raid the association. These guys are hopefully on a clock. The new union is doing things right and Im hopeful its leadership will be successful at United stores and a few other campaigns initiating soon.
SWA now has ETOPS approval from the FAA, should prove interesting in negotiations.Yes. Your new Union is totally on fire. Here’s a link for those who haven’t seen it yet.
http://www.ampnational.org/
Seems to have more takers than a certain petition going around these days.Yes. Your new Union is totally on fire. Here’s a link for those who haven’t seen it yet.
http://www.ampnational.org/
sorry, thats not it. I helped put together a great constitution and thus far the union is doing fairly well in getting signups for United storekeepers. Alot for them to do yet to just secure an election but they have a great leadership.Yes. Your new Union is totally on fire. Here’s a link for those who haven’t seen it yet.
http://www.ampnational.org/
when you eliminate all the children, wives, neighbors, drunks, there are only 75 employees who signed it. But i think 700 signed it 5 times. At any rate, handing a petition, crying to parker, isnt worth our dues. Management will just recycle into a paper airplane. Our union is dumb. Petitions barely work for non union companies, why would they try a non union tactic here?Seems to have more takers than a certain petition going around these days.
Obviously a not well thought out act of desperation by the Association. An Association that was soindly defeated in negotiations wait until you see what we give up.It will be almost criminal considering the company makes billionswhen you eliminate all the children, wives, neighbors, drunks, there are only 75 employees who signed it. But i think 700 signed it 5 times. At any rate, handing a petition, crying to parker, isnt worth our dues. Management will just recycle into a paper airplane. Our union is dumb. Petitions barely work for non union companies, why would they try a non union tactic here?
Unfortunately, whoever did that webpage is in high school. At least be more professional.