ALPA/USAPA/Pilot Labor Thread for the week 4/12-4/19

[prechilill]

Carefull comrade..you've just described the Alpo "Party Line" in totalis

speaking of parties...it's time Have a good one all

Since you profess to have such a mastery of the english spelling, I just thought I would congratulate you on the new way to spell "careful".

 

[Career Reserve]

Can I just tell you (Pilots) that this is the first time in years, yes years that I have been proud of anything dealing with this airline.
The last time I felt proud was when Pittsburgh had Teddy as president and we voted the contract down.
(but that's another story).
Yours has a better ending.

I know this isn't bringing unity to this board, but this is overdue vindication.

 

[EastUS]

Since you profess to have such a mastery of the english spelling, I just thought I would congratulate you on the new way to spell "careful".

My profuse and profound apologies Mum/EX-Alpoid Princess sometimes?...my scraggly gray hair, sloped shoulders, sunken/hollow eyes, and sadly aged condition, simply get in the way of proper perfection in typing issues

Have a Good One/PARTY TIME!!!!!

 

[prechilill]

My profuse and profound aplogies Mum/Alpoid Princess sometimes?...my scraggly gray hair, sloped shoulders, sunken/hollow eyes, and sadly aged condition, simply get in the way of proper perfection in typing issues

Have a Good One/PARTY TIME!!!!!

Anything to help my fellow man...
So, do you really think you are any closer to getting rid of Nic???

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Anything to help my fellow man...
So, do you really think you are any closer to getting rid of Nic???

Nic? Who is Nic? He (or she) can come to the party too, if he brings something to celebrate with!! WOO HOO!

 

[EastUS]

Anything to help my fellow man...
So, do you really think you are any closer to getting rid of Nic???

Well..at least YOU will actually have to start working for a living for a change...that's a start Sigh..no more Alpoid/self indulgent flight pay loss...it'll be tragic..but..I'm sure you'll endure

PARTY TIME!!/Must exit/Take Care/Enjoy/etc

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Try this afternoon congratulating us. Not bad huh?

I'll add my congratultions as well. I give credit where it is due, my compliments. Delivering on all the promises may prove more difficult than now imagined, but we'll see how it goes. As it sits now, I don't think Alpa particularily cares, but I tell you what, if Northwest follows your lead old Prater and Alpa may be in a heap a trouble.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Ha ha ha, just walked back from my mailbox with an Alpa invoice. Hey Prater, go.......ah, never mind.

 

[sharktooth]

USAPA has a very tough road ahead.

You create impossible obstacles, mandating conditions, literally, given away already by both the east and west, but, USAPA has a better chance of lowering labor tensions and creating a workable solution than ALPA ever did.

I am certain ALPA will use dues monies to create obstacles for USAPA. That is OK. I am a firm believer in competition and believe, ultimately, ALPA will indeed recreate itself in a positive way, after a few years. I think the entire profession has a chance to regain itself due not just to the actions of some hard working pilots who put the deal together but to all the pilots who, unlike you, know the difference between strategy and tactics.

See, another difference is that the future can now hold a vision of integrity for pilots. It does not matter what the name of a union is, SWAPA, APA, USAPA or ALPA, as long as the professional vision is enhanced. ALPA was crippled by representing too many proprietary visions. No one pilot was the fault at ALPA. But now ALPA can take part in taking back the profession as it sheds its internal conflicts. Join us all leveraging all of our futures.

Sorry for the length....

 

[Leonidas]

US Airways Pilots Stand Strong Against New Union

PHOENIX – The ongoing efforts to complete the US Airways [NYSE:LCC]
merger hit a major roadblock today as US Airways and America West pilots,
who have long been represented by the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA),
were stripped of their membership in a national union because of a dispute
over the outcome of a final and binding seniority integration arbitration
award, known as the Nicolau Award. The pilots’ new “union,†the US Airline
Pilots Association (USAPA), was created expressly for the purpose of seeking to
overturn the Nicolau Award and to thereby destroy the careers of pre-merger
America West pilots who have sacrificed for their airline with years of bottom-
of-the-barrel pay, benefits and work rules.

The following statement is from the leaders of the America West Airlines Pilots
Protective Alliance (AWAPPA), which was created to counteract this threat
and ensure that USAPA fails in its stated goals:

“This vote is a setback for all US Airways pilots. USAPA has proven it
is incapable of representing the entire pilot group. As a result, the America
West Airlines Pilots Protective Alliance (AWAPPA) has been formed to
engage in an aggressive strategy to protect pre-merger America West pilots
from all of USAPA’s discriminatory acts against them.

“AWAPPA will educate pilots about USAPA’s practices, and will
recommend measures that will protect pre-merger America West pilots from
harm. USAPA’s stated goal of defying the Nicolau Award goes against the
grain of common sense, propriety, longstanding airline industry practices
and, more importantly, binding commitments made as an inducement to
support the merger in the first place. By instantly disenfranchising 40
percent of the combined US Airways pilot group from Day One, USAPA’s
existence is a recipe for labor turmoil and passenger nightmares at US
Airways. For these reasons, we believe that USAPA’s demise is just a matter
of time.â€

AWAPPA is an Arizona Limited Liability Corporation created, operated, and
privately funded by pre-merger America West pilots. Represented by the
Washington, D.C law firm Bredhoff & Kaiser P.L.L.C., AWAPPA will use any
and all resources (legal and political) to prevent USAPA from devastating the
careers of pre-merger America West pilots.

For more information visit: www.awappa.org or email [email protected].

 

[767jetz]

Only a selfish FOOL believes that furloughees should not get the credit they're due for their services to the company.

No one said they should not get credit. They should come back right ahead of AWA furloughs. OH! That's right... AWA didn't have anyone on furlough. They were actually hiring pilots!! They should be the first to come back to the company when needed. Right where they were the day before the merger. In fact right where they were when they got furloughed. At the bottom, on reserve, in the right seat, with 10 years to go for an upgrade. That's what they left with. Why should they get more than what they had before. Wouldn't that be a Windfall? Now if you want to give them pay credit for the years on furlough, I'm all for that. But that's not what we're talking about here, is it?

It is your perspective that is selfish and twisted and wreaks of entitlement and theft. No surprise there.

 

[oldiebutgoody]

YOUR SIDE LOST! GET OVER YOURSELF!

And to Leonidas, you can stop the FUD, the election is over!

 

[FlightChic]

Is this an AWAPPA press release in response to the USAPA victory or a newspaper article written by a kool-aid drinking reporter? If it's from the local paper I want to know because someone needs to write to them and give them the real facts. They obviously haven't heard all sides of the story.

 

[Leonidas]

http://awappa.org/Uploads/ParkerBradford%2...80417150032.pdf

 

[UAL_TECH]

I see at least Seham & Seham landed on their feet...

Good Luck USAPA

B) UT