Aircraft maint issues

[WeAAsles]

Over the next several months, American will work with the TWU-IAM Association to evaluate how the work will be supported. Up to 80 positions will be needed in the existing engine shop to take on the additional work, although whether any of those positions will be new is unclear, Brock said.


http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/...cle_76362077-a7d9-5153-b220-3cff87406255.html

 

[chilokie1]

Here’s the article. The work is coming in-house from Brazil.

20 year contract with GE is ending.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/...cle_76362077-a7d9-5153-b220-3cff87406255.html

Isn’t PHX just QEC and not overhaul?

AA just signed a ten year contract with a company in Canada to do the overhaul on the V2500's, both PHX & TUL shops are QEC & local repair shops. The TUL shop is just a few bays in its QEC shop mainly because all of LAA A321's are only a few years old & most of the work is a few years down the road. As much as I hate to see that work leave & if AA has long term plans for PHX I see all of the V2500 going there. I could be wrong though, Tulsa has a massive engine shop & a central location ( which is huge) plus the CF6 & JT8's are living on borrowed time.

 

[chilokie1]

Are you sure? Where does your info come from?? Will there be more outsourcing in the future???

From the horses mouth!....Tulsa takes 53 days to overhaul its CFM56-7's, GE Brazil took an average of 110 days to do the -5's!!!. American has started receiving its first of its 100 737-MAX aircraft & soon will be receiving 100 A321-NEO aircraft. If you are the best at something good things tend to happen, it would be another huge get if Tulsa could also acquire the 400 plus CFM56-LEAP engine work in years to come

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Does TULE have a test cell?

Do they do engine overhaul, QEC, or both?

 

[chilokie1]

We received bad information from our Manager Charlotte is
not losing its QEC shop, Sorry for the bad information. Charlotte does most of the engine changes so they will continue that work,I was given bad information and I apologize to the Charlotte folks. The only difference is they will send the engines to Tulsa instead of GE once they do their preliminary inspections & De-QEC work.

 

[B737 driver]

From the horses mouth!....Tulsa takes 53 days to overhaul its CFM56-7's, GE Brazil took an average of 110 days to do the -5's!!!. American has started receiving its first of its 100 737-MAX aircraft & soon will be receiving 100 A321-NEO aircraft. If you are the best at something good things tend to happen, it would be another huge get if Tulsa could also acquire the 400 plus CFM56-LEAP engine work in years to come

The leap engine has a lot of differences from the -7Bs the Fan is completely different, you have to take the spinner off to add weights for Fan balance. The ECC is two different boxes now. The fuel system is completely different the HMU has been split into three different components. It also starts completely different than the NG. We have already had issues with vibration sensors going bad. And if you change an ECC on one you have to download the old ballance data from the ECC with the laptop, to install it in the new ECC so it knows were all the weights are, fun! fun!

 

[chilokie1]

Does TULE have a test cell?

Do they do engine overhaul, QEC, or both?

In my last post I explained my mistake in regards to the QEC work on the -5's, Charlotte will continue to QEC the -5's. Tulsa will do the overhaul and testing when the CFM56-5 testing spring beam arrives and the cell is correlated for the -5. It will be run in the same cell the -7's are presently tested in.

 

[chilokie1]

The leap engine has a lot of differences from the -7Bs the Fan is completely different, you have to take the spinner off to add weights for Fan balance. The ECC is two different boxes now. The fuel system is completely different the HMU has been split into three different components. It also starts completely different than the NG. We have already had issues with vibration sensors going bad. And if you change an ECC on one you have to download the old ballance data from the ECC with the laptop, to install it in the new ECC so it knows were all the weights are, fun! fun!

It sounds interesting I'm looking forward to working on it, the first QEC kit & lifting tools have arrived we just need the first spare LEAP-B to show up from GE.

 

[swamt]

From the horses mouth!....Tulsa takes 53 days to overhaul its CFM56-7's, GE Brazil took an average of 110 days to do the -5's!!!. American has started receiving its first of its 100 737-MAX aircraft & soon will be receiving 100 A321-NEO aircraft. If you are the best at something good things tend to happen, it would be another huge get if Tulsa could also acquire the 400 plus CFM56-LEAP engine work in years to come

Outstanding. This is great news then. Congrats to the Tulsa engine shop and the growth. More jobs is always a good thing.

 

[WeAAsles]

Association, AA Executive Session Negotiations Continue

December 1, 2017

Brothers and Sisters,

The Executive Negotiating Committee met face to face with American Airlines this week in Washington DC. This session was focused on Maintenance Training Specialists (MTS) and was very productive. Non-economic articles were discussed. Constructive dialog in a productive environment helped the parties significantly narrow their positions in numerous articles that produced an agreement on most outstanding language issues. Complete Tentative Agreements were reached on:
Purpose of Agreement
Preamble
Safety & Health
Uniforms
Qualifications

When the parties reconvene both sides will be prepared to begin discussions on the Scope Article and remaining language issues for MTS.

Additional weeks have been added to the negotiating calendar as follows:
December 4 DCA
December 11 DFW
January 8 DCA
January 22 DCA
February 12 DCA
February 19 DCA

Fraternally,

Fleet Negotiating Committee:

Mark Baskett, William Fa, Mike Fairbanks, Tim Hughes, Steve Miller, Tim Murphy, Pat Rezler, Art Risley, Andre Sutton, Rodney Walker, Bill Wilson

Mechanic and Related/Stores Committee:

Jason Best, Mike Bush, Ken Coley, John Coveny, Dale Danker, Mark Huffman, Bennie Martino, Gary Peterson, Rollie Reaves, Sean Ryan, Jay Sleeman, Mark Strength

 

[AANOTOK]

C'mon Gary, how about a "real" update. Maybe the new International role forbids it.

 

[Vortilon]

C'mon Gary, how about a "real" update. Maybe the new International role forbids it.

They are not going to deal with A/C Maintenance economics till the week of Dec 11. That is, if they finish the minutia they talked about dealing with this last week and next week as well. The 15th of Dec. is the day that will be - either this thing drags on and on, or we get a TA soon.

 

[The Truth Will Set U Free]

How about another Protest. OH wait. That only pissed off the company.Now they won't help give out our Equity Money. May be Gary can ACT tuff at another town Hall Meeting. OH wait, that didn't help either. Damn maybe these guys don't have a DAMN clue as to how to get US anything. But the Do know how to spend our MONEY.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

How about another Protest. OH wait. That only pissed off the company.Now they won't help give out our Equity Money. May be Gary can ACT tuff at another town Hall Meeting. OH wait, that didn't help either. Damn maybe these guys don't have a DAMN clue as to how to get US anything. But the Do know how to spend our MONEY.

What do you care part timer? You live off your wife anyway.

 

[WeAAsles]

So the expectation is to have an AIP (JCTA) by the end of this month? President Peterson also covers the recent Holiday scheduling Pilot news.