Yes they have. They keep collecting dues for a job well done.
AA and Labor Negotiations-2020
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AANOTOK
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Not sure who yo are referring to when you say "many of you", but the person you mention has no fans who continue to post here. They all have slithered away instead of standing up and admitting they were wrong.
Correct. And it's been the same "no progress" update since way back in Sept. That's right, go look at all the updates on the first page back to Sept.
And on this Dec 14th last update they are still not close on:
1-Compensation
2-Retro Pay
3-Payroll System (this one just came up as a new subject)
4-Scope Protections
5-Vacation
Watch what comes out in the upcoming meetings next week. All of a sudden there will be a T/A or AIP. All because of the energetic AMFA card drive. What they have been stalled out on for past couple years will magically be agreed to next week somehow...
V.O. Reason
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I suspect that phone conversations have been ongoing and that if they truly meet next week it will be to finalize the AIP.
I have no proof of this but the deal is this I can’t see any agreement being made if no progress is made before the end of Jan
We will most definitely be put on Ice till late in the year
I have no proof of this but the deal is this I can’t see any agreement being made if no progress is made before the end of Jan
We will most definitely be put on Ice till late in the year
A card drive always puts pressure on a union especially when the union is engaged in negotiations. This has been going on for years. With the TWU the ones that are reluctant to sign for this reason will then later say we should have signed cards because the TWU screwed us again. Then the cycle continues again. We keep doing the same thing and the same results transpire. It's insane how we continue to accept the failures of the TWU contract after contract.
For some reason i doubt anything will happen. At all.
_flyonthewall
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I'm bored with this.
Either put something on the table for us to consider
or shut up.
Either put something on the table for us to consider
or shut up.
V.O. Reason
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I fear you may be right, just more disappointment and our continuing slide further away from our peers
V.O. Reason
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We are getting squeezed from two sides the greed from AA and the stupidity and greed from the union
Oh good, they are making progress.
Four years and we are down to these few issues. Let's see what the next four years brings to the table.
See what happens when you have a dysfunctional association of two diverse unions in the mix with a dozen groups of different job descriptions. Too many me too demands. We need separation from the association and negotiate for our respective title groups. This is what I tell guys and they either agree or didn't know. That's what gets cards signed. Spread the word. Ignore the association lies about how changing unions will have a negative affect on the members and current negotiations. Slowly we are converting the sheep into lions. Sign a card and become a leader of your negotiation.
Soon enough we will see if we get more association releases on the grass roots card drive or the negotiations. We will see what's more important to the association.
Negotiations?
Dues?
Card drive?
Meat, fish or chicken?
Are we hungry enough to force the hand of the negotiators to put something on the table?
Protect the dues and spread lies and create division between the card signers. Getting a good contract only worked once. The 2000 contract. AKA- The AMFA contract.
bob@las-AA
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So are the association updates.
